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Children’s Health Defense Panel Discussion — The Enduring Nightmare of COVID mRNA Technology. Moderator: Dr. Brian Hooker, PhD. Panelists: Dr. Peter McCullough, MD; Dr. Jessica Rose, PhD; Dr. Pierre Kory, MD; Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, MD; and Dr. Bret Weinstein, PhD. Recorded during CHD’s November 2025 Conference: “Moment of Truth” (released 12/26/25, video 56:04 includes transcript).
Eminently qualified heroic doctors and scientists expose the horrors of mRNA technology. Not just mRNA COVID shots, but the entire technology platform including self-spreading mRNA vaccines already used in Japanese humans and being injected into animals by uninformed veterinarians; such vaccines can spread even to those who do not consent to taking them.
If you haven’t been paying attention for the past five years (or the past 25, like Dr. Tenpenny), you’ll want to watch not only for the scientific information presented but also to learn what the “Disinformation Playbook” did to researchers who presented “real science” accurately and fearlessly. Even today, people concerned about vaccine dangers continue to be censored and disowned for their truth-telling ways.
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Transcript Summary (Grok ai, edited)
ED NOTE
Please watch the discussion, not just read about it. Otherwise, you’ll miss the personalities, passion, and compassion of these great Americans.Panelists discuss concerns about mRNA COVID vaccines including DNA contamination, long-term spike protein production, safety issues, and personal experiences of opposition.
Panel Introduction
Dr. Peter McCullough — Board-certified cardiologist with over 1,000 publications, recipient of awards, book author, and Chief Scientific Officer at The Wellness Company.
Jessica Rose —Holds degrees in applied mathematics, immunology, and computational biology, with postdoctoral work in molecular biology and biochemistry, and analyzes pharmacovigilance data such as VAERS.
Dr. Sherry Tenpenny — Osteopathic physician board-certified in emergency and osteopathic manipulative medicine, founder of Tenpenny Integrative Medical Center, book author, and podcast host.
Dr. Pierre Kory — Former Chief of Critical Care at University of Wisconsin, pioneer in critical care ultrasonography, and co-author of papers and books on COVID treatments. See, for example, The War on Ivermectin: a.co/d/adLKJb1
Dr. Brett Weinstein — Holds a PhD in biology, former professor at Evergreen State College, author of "A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century," and host of Dark Horse podcast.
Dr. McCullough's Epiphany on mRNA
McCullough became aware of mRNA technology during 2020 vaccine development. He wrote op-eds advising Senate, House, and White House, with his last titled "The Great Gamble of the COVID-19 Vaccine Development Program," warning of risks from genetic technology.
Jessica Rose on Recent Paper
Rose, with Kevin McKernan and David Speicher, published in journal Autoimmunity finding DNA in Pfizer and Moderna vials that exceeded European Medicines Agency (EMA) limits.
DNA is lipid nanoparticle-encapsulated, unlike naked DNA.
Clinical trials used PCR-based versions
Commercial products used plasmid E. coli system for mass production, leading to contaminants including lipopolysaccharide and DNA..
Commercial products were tested on 250 people, not billions.
ED NOTE Testing on billions occurred only after the shots were rolled out. Anyone who took COVID shots should be considered a test subject.
Dr. Tenpenny on mRNA Differences
Tenpenny has opposed vaccines for 25 years, stating they are unsafe, ineffective, unnecessary, and harmful.
mRNA vaccines ramp up damage, violating emergency use authorization tenets
mRNA vaccines are experimental products tested on few before global release.
Astonished that mRNA products are still on market considering their many negative issues.
Dr. Kory's Experience
Kory was skeptical of coronavirus vaccines due to past vaccine failures.
January 2021: Noticed VAERS reports of deaths and injuries post-vaccination.
Read VAERS clinical vignettes showing temporal associations with cardiac arrests.
Co-founded FLCCC (now Independent Medical Alliance) with Dr. Paul Marik.
Per Grokipedia (ignore Wikipedia): “The Independent Medical Alliance (IMA) is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization founded in March 2020 by a group of critical care specialists to develop science-based treatment protocols grounded in clinical data and research observations, with an initial focus on addressing the COVID-19 pandemic through early intervention and prevention strategies.” tinyurl.com/55zt6764
Faced internal resistance even within FLCCC Alliance when raising concerns.
Observed societal propaganda, illogical policies, and disappearance of natural immunity concepts in 2021.
Dr. Weinstein's Realization
Weinstein previously viewed vaccines as a triumph of modern medicine. But early on, he realized COVID mRNA vaccines could not be declared safe without long-term data, because “safety” means “without risk.“
Discussed three types of vaccine platforms:
Live attenuated: Risks evolution.
Killed viruses: Require unsafe adjuvants.
mRNA: Triggers immune attack on own cells. Fraud in production should void liability immunity.
ED NOTE See Sasha Latypova’s writings explaining that COVID shots were military countermeasures, so even the fraud liability immunity may not apply. Examples here: tinyurl.com/5bzjjchd
Long-Term Consequences — McCullough
Testified in House on 5-15 year concern window regarding mRNA technology, per FDA regulations.
ED NOTE mRNA shots were classified as “vaccines” to rush Warp Speed approvals, but actually are gene therapy products, which ordinarily require long-term testing.Massive global investment in mRNA, trillions of dollars exchanged, over 3,000 patents, aspirations to replace childhood vaccines and treat conditions.
Safety sacrificed.
Circulating mRNA, spike protein, DNA fragments persist years post-vaccination, causing spikeopathies (spike-related diseases).
Biden administration spent $1 billion on long COVID without considering vaccine injuries.
Self-Amplifying mRNA— Rose
Describes self-amplifying mRNA approved in Japan October 2023, using Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus backbone with spike genes and RNA-dependent RNA polymerase for amplification.
No off-switch studies.
Risks cell termination or template switching creating new, potentially more pathogenic viruses.
Transmits between mammals; used in pet vaccines.
New “nanocage” technology in mice studs pseudo-viruses with proteins such as HIV.
Persecution and Blowback — Tenpenny, Kory, Weinstein
…once you know what you know, you can't unknow it. And once you get on the right side of history and, you know, and you read the science, you study the things, you come to conferences like this with all these people, go forth and be bold, you know.
And I remember my mom always, you know, I'd come home from school and I'd be all upset about something that happened, and she said, just always remember, sticks and stones can break your bones, but names can never hurt you. So all of you guys just flick it off like Teflon and just keep going because you're in the right and it doesn't really matter what they call you. — Sherry Tenpenny
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Contagious vaccines are going to rob us of the ability to say no. So we have to stop this now, and we have the tool to do it. — Dr. Brett Weinstein
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My life changed really in March of 2020 when I got an email from one of the most published vitamin D specialists or experts in the world. And it was a two line email. …he said,
“Dear Dr. Kory, what they're doing to Ivermectin, they've been doing to vitamin D for decades. And he included a link to an article called the Disinformation Playbook.”
And it's a very short article. It's written by the Union for Concerned Scientists, and it literally laid out the five main tactics that industries deploy when science emerges that's inconvenient to their interests (tinyurl.com/3tsjerdc). And my eyes were like popping out of my head because I'm reading this and it's describing everything that had confused me for those last four months. — Dr. Pierre Kory
Tenpenny faced license sanction, and was labeled one of the “Disinformation Dozen.” She encourages boldness.
Kory experienced media hit jobs after his Senate testimony on ivermectin. He read "Disinformation Playbook" explaining industry tactics that previously were used against Vitamin D.
Weinstein was demonetized on YouTube for four years after hosting critics including Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Pierre Kory, and Steve Kirsch.
Notes "painful upgrade" of losing false friends, but gaining stronger ones.
Fraud exists and is provable, including undisclosed SV40 promoter and DNA issues.
He believes we can end mRNA technology via courts.
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Related Videos from November 2025 CHD Conference:
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The Alarming Rise of Turbo Cancers: tinyurl.com/4admwhbz
Freedom: Playing to Win + How to Escape the Encroaching Control Grid: tinyurl.com/bdfjvysd
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