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I definitely don't take your comment as a personal attack! And I actually think we don't disagree that much. A few quick points:

First: Yes, I absolutely agree that school-related stuff is the first option for "cutting corners" when one's first priority is paying rent and buying food. A number of people I know who have dropped out of undergrad did so precisely because they had to put their material needs first. (And in fact the majority of people I know who dropped out of undergrad did so for severe mental health reasons.) I suspect this is the case for a lot of people who drop out of school. Material needs come first. I was probably too quick to disregard this basic point in my initial comment.

Second: This discourse, frankly, is just overdetermined. A student choosing to cheat does so for many, many reasons, so trying to analyze why they do it is a bit of a hopeless endeavor to begin with. (I do not think this is a reason not to think about cheating.) I can think of friends in dire economic circumstances who were fine with cheating; I can think of friends in dire economic circumstances who weren't. I can think of friends from the 1% who were fine with cheating; I can think of friends from the 1% who weren't. One's material reality is undoubtedly a factor here, and maybe even the strongest one, but from my (very limited) experience, that's not the whole story. The "whole story" is just very long and messy.

I will say, to Dr. Musgrave's original point, AI opens up a whole new kind of cheating. (Actually, I might be mixing up Substack posts now that I go back and look but it's a good point nonetheless.) A student who chooses--for whatever reason--to have ChatGPT write their essay on the Cold War ended up not learning anything about the Cold War (and in the process that student didn't learn how to write, either). I guess all I have to say is just that it's depressing. I'm not under the illusion that students ten years ago were thrilled about writing essays, but all the same, it's depressing.

May 17, 2023
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