With respect we do not know what a Western victory, in the Ukraine, or outside of it, is supposed to look like - there has never, correct me if I am wrong, been any statement issued by US or EU or NATO, intended as definitive and authoritative (and not to be easily consigned to the if all angels could only sing poubelle)

The US ruling class is, on this subject, broken into an unstable cabal of contending factions, each with their own bla bla etc etc

Some of the more extremely Neos talk of the impending de colonisation of the RF (Pete B the Transport secretary)

Others....take your pick

We have a clearer idea of the RF statements of aims and intents, VVP many times

Beyond the battlefield, as Mao has reminded us, there is economic construction

This too seems to favour the RF

Then there is solidarity of alliances throughout RoW, notably with China and Iran - here too one can say the RF is leading

Decolonisation of Africa - this favours the RF, massively

What else......Gold standard....? wilting US Treasuries, the list is long