I'm wondering by what moral calculus Israel should be forced to allow Hamas to continue to hold onto and torture its men, women and children, because the cost in Gazan lives of saving them would be too great.

I also wonder, given that it's really the West that holds Israel to standards it never applies to itself, what the West is going to do. Will it continue to keep Hamas afloat with donations while their captives suffer unimaginably?

Also, I understand that you guest is an Israeli leftist. Fine, but it should come with some kind of warning label, given that calling the judicial reform "anti democratic" is a matter of dispute (it's also wrong, but I don't expect you to take my word for it any more than his).