Sound raw thoughts that behoove a bit more rigorous philosophical analysis. Why? Not because the more rigorous analysis will convince The Elect to become apostate, but rather, to marginalize them in the eyes of rationalists and to prevent anyone who values logic and truth from being sucked in. I get that a first year philosophy student with a basic understanding of the history of philosophy up through Logical Positivism can rip the underlying tenets of The Elect's religion to shreds. It IS easily done. But it nevertheless needs to be laid out in a truly philosophical way--the manner in which Socrates would induce aporia through questions, the manner in which Wittgenstein would "quicken the queer" of a philosophical statement by pointing out how the language employed in it has gone on a holiday. Again, there is very little hope of this being effective against The Elect. But preventing at least one rationalist from going down the rabbit hole makes it a worthwhile endeavor.