I said that Trump did them first and has done more of them. Pivotally, he’s also been doing podcasts that are likely to have more undecideds in their audience. Harris already has a huge advantage with women, so Alex Cooper and Brene Brown are unlikely to help her that much. Trump reached a very young audience through people like Adin Ross, and then Rogan is a real prize. Rogan has been for Kennedy, has the most listeners and has largely independent listeners. My guess is that the Rogan interview delivered Trump hundreds of thousands of votes.