i talked about them in this 2015 podcast http://www.chinafile.com/library/sinica-podcast/china-watchers-china-watcher-decamps?fbclid=IwAR0YNa3ejj4jv88p1ib9Yn-cgYUpGF48fVcAYaECKLY2s2HoJQOefnpFIeI

"While not exactly your requisite “Why I Am Leaving China” blog post, this show gives Kaiser Kuo and David Moser the chance to talk to Bill about the reasons behind his decision, and explore why he sees an increasingly strained relationship between China and the United States over the next few years."