Hi Steve,
We watched the podcast with Dr. Stella yesterday. You might find this to be of interest: ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJ… Looks like data to me.
I suggest you take a look at the video. The smirk on your face was quite a contrast to the joy and kindness shown by your guest. I, and I am sure many others, join her in praying for you. God bless you.