13:00 minutes in I've stopped to write my theory: I think what happened to Vance (and I think this because I think he is a pretty intelligent guy) is that because he figured out the the belief in craziness was so pervasive, and that it likely was increasing, he came to the conclusion that the American populace was actually not capable of making the kinds of rational decisions needed to participate in a democracy. It turned him into one of these folks who believe in dictatorship a la Peter Thiel: the people who are intelligent and knowledgeable should be the ones making decisions. After that leap of political philosophy, it is easy to see that people's propensity to believe conspiracy theories can be used to manipulate them, therefore can be used to get yourself put in power. Trump is a weirdo-mentally-unstable-chaos-machine. People think, oh it's a cult of personality and once Trump is gone, MAGA will crumble, but I don't think so. Vance is smart, capable, manipulative, and brutal, and I think he is way more dangerous to our democracy than Trump.