Shall I post proof of my high HDL/low triglycerides? A pic maybe? We simply do not do research that controls for selection effects for high meat almost always being a proxy for high other things. You need an RCT of very healthy but no meat diet compared to very healthy plus meat diet. Not weak epistemological crap that is wrecked by healthy user effects. Very hard to do proper diet research. But biochemistry tells us otherwise. Admittedly very hard to do proper research but no evidence is no evidence. Most of the anti meat nonsense is driven by an admirable concern for animal suffering, a separate and compelling issue that happens to be irrelevant to health.