I see your point, and somewhat agree on the difference between socialized and subsidized. But, without the mandate to have "insurance", the mandate to pay into the subsidy programs, and most importantly the mandate to the vast majority of medical providers to adhere to and accept what the "insurance" conglomerates mandate as an acceptable fee, we are back to the socialization (or maybe more properly the fascistic) model (government mandates goods and services, following the needs of the industry it pretends to regulate, funded by mandatory revenues from the populace).

I agree it is all about the money, that is taken from the average citizen to line the pockets of politicians, their lobbyist fluffers and the industry whales making sure there's always 10% for some "big guy".

The largest employer in the country, is the country. The largest industry (health "care") is run by the largest employer in the country. Sounds like garbage to me. Government (anything) is THE problem.