At the very least, it would take Donald Trump losing reelection, but even then it's hardly enough, I would kind of hope Xi's generation of the last red guards manage to not actually run China into their 80s, but make some sort of reasonably organized transition, I do think lost in all this is all these people talking about how engagement failed with China when the generation that actually engaged with the West has not even really been allowed to run the show yet is highly dubious at best. how about we actually see what a China run by the post Mao generation actually look like before making any sweeping conclusions?