Another common argument I've often heard goes like this: Russia WAS provoked for eight years by Russia-hating Ukrainians, but Putin was STILL wrong to invade. So, with the US/UK refusing to allow Ukraine to negotiate, as attacks on the ethnic Russians in the Donbass intensified into genocide, Putin shouldn't have tried to stop it by military means. Does anyone else see the contradiction in that argument? The cognitive dissonance? When faced with an implacable, fanatic, unreasonable foe like US/NATO sometimes war is preferable to a peace that's worse than death.