"perhaps i’m just being optimistic, but i think that a lot of them have no idea how badly, comprehensively, and consistently they have been lied to."

I've found that these same types are of they type never to admit they were duped or lied to. They can't admit they were fooled. They double down.

I've had this experience a couple times in the past week, both about the covid response. They just can't admit they were lied to. And doubled down on "perfect vaccines" (her words, not mine), masks, 6 feet, lockdowns. It was insane.