Thanks for link. I would never eat Spam, because they use nitrites as a preservative. It's a carcinogen. I know there is a lot of questionable stuff in processed food, and of course I eat some of it anyway, but I really do avoid foods containing nitrites, it's really not good. Aside from the taste and other aspects, I would only eat food containing nitrites if there were truly nothing else. Thanks for the reminder about bay leaves, I don't have any, and I had forgotten they are preventive for bugs.