Bankless DAO x ConsenSys DAOlationship Proposal

Title: Bankless DAO x ConsenSys DAOlationship Proposal

Authors: Erikson Herman [thetruth#1976], Matt Wright [mattwright.eth (:busts_in_silhouette:,:handshake:)#5268], Lucas Campbell [0xLucas#3124] + Senad Dilji [senad.eth :black_flag:#8782]

Squad: Erikson Herman [thetruth#1976], Matt Wright [mattwright.eth (:busts_in_silhouette:,:handshake:)#5268], April Kim [ApK48#6673] + Lucas Campbell [0xLucas#3124] + Senad Dilji [senad.eth :black_flag:#8782]

Date Created: July 25, 2022

Date Posted: September 13, 2022

SUMMARY

ConsenSys is seeking the opportunity to onboard some of their employees to the Bankless DAO in order to help the DAO across various guilds and projects, allowing their employees to learn how to effectively explore DAO culture, experiment with external contribution in the DAO community and continuously provide value to the wider Ethereum ecosystem.

As part of this DAOlationship proposal, ConsenSys would like to secure 50 Guest Passes for a 3 month period so that ConsenSys employees can have a trial period to experience the Bankless DAO prior to independently joining the Bankless DAO (i.e. purchasing 35,000 BANK tokens on their own) and potentially contributing if they should choose to do so.

In addition, Bankless DAO will offer additional stewardship, educational materials and support to an agreed upon capacity and ConsenSys will allocate an equal value to this partnership.

At ConsenSys, we encourage all employees to dedicate at least one full day every month to third party initiatives external to ConsenSys—namely, DAOs. This is an org-wide plan for employees to migrate to a contributor model, unbundle the mystic DAO ecosystem, and to “green pill” our people into becoming fully consumed by web3 culture.

BACKGROUND

ConsenSys is making this proposal because we are committed to bettering both the overall Ethereum ecosystem and the DAO ecosystem and we believe that a DAOlationship with Bankless will result in several positive outcomes for both parties as well as learning outcomes that the overall community will benefit from.

Positive Outcomes - Bankless

  • Bankless DAO will gain access to potentially valuable contributors who have the opportunity to contribute some of their working hours to third party initiatives external to ConsenSys—namely, DAOs.

  • Bankless DAO may be able to increase the output of various guilds if these working relationships prove to be fruitful; in turn, this will increase the footprint of the Bankless brand

  • Bankless DAO will have a direct line of communication with a steward from the ConsenSys team to ensure that all parties are satisfied with the relationship; specifically, it is less likely that contributors will disappear or become disengaged as can sometimes be the case with individual contributors

Positive Outcomes - ConsenSys

  • Allow ConsenSys employees to experiment with contributing to one of the most respected DAOs in the ecosystem

  • ConsenSys employees will gain insight into how a well functioning DAO organizes and operates

  • ConsenSys employees will be able to expand their horizons in terms of the types of work that can be completed in DAOs and potentially find new areas of interest (ex. writing / research / operations / marketing) that they may not be exposed to in their day-to-day work life

Learning Outcomes - Both Parties

  • Strengthen the DAO onboarding process for both parties and learn previously unrecognized insights about DAO onboarding

MISSION & VALUES ALIGNMENT

The Bankless DAO mission and values are as follows:

:small_orange_diamond: Mission: We will help the world go Bankless by creating user-friendly onramps for people to discover decentralized financial technologies through education, media, and culture.

:small_orange_diamond: Vision: To live in a world where anyone with an internet connection has access to the financial tools needed to achieve financial independence

:small_orange_diamond: Values: Education, Integrity, Decentralized Governance, and Culture

:red_circle: Education: We learn from each other. We seek to become a trusted guide that empowers people all over the globe to adopt decentralized finance by sharing accurate, truthful, and objective information.

:red_circle: Integrity: We operate transparently and build trust through radically public discourse and financial auditability.

:red_circle: Decentralized Governance: We put decision making into the hands of the collective. We create legitimacy through an environment where the best ideas win.

:red_circle: Culture: We reward action and embrace risk. We empower our community to continually drive new initiatives by providing a space to self-organize and quickly move from idea to action.

ConsenSys values are as follows:

We act with kindness.

We continually evolve.

We cultivate community.

We embrace innovation.

We deliver impact.

As you can see, there is a lot of overlap between the core values of both Bankless and ConsenSys. In particular, both parties aim to educate and onboard as many people as possible into the Ethereum ecosystem and to help all citizens of the world to evolve and embrace innovation.

By partnering with ConsenSys, the Bankless DAO will be able to further their mission by gaining access to potential contributors who share these same values and who have a proven track record of delivering on projects across various departments (guilds).

SCOPE OF WORK

As part of this proposal, ConsenSys employees will be encouraged to identify 1-2 guilds and 1-2 work stream/active workgroups for their potential contributions during this 3 month trial period. In addition, it is highly encouraged that ConsenSys employees join the weekly calls of their selected guilds as well as the DAO-wide community call on Friday’s at 3pm UTC.

Details on specific guilds and call times can be found below:

Community Call

  • Join the weekly community call on Friday 3pm UTC!

Writers Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Monday 5:30pm UTC and contribute to one of the following workgroups:
    • Newsletter team
    • Editorial and Publishing Arm (EPA)
    • Bankless Publishing

Treasury Guild

  • Join the weekly tokenomics department calls on Friday 2pm UTC and contribute to one of the following workgroups:

  • L2 Migration Workgroup

  • Bank Utility Workgroup

  • Tokenomics Leveling Up Initiative

  • Join the weekly treasury management calls on Wednesday 2pm UTC and contribute to one of the following teams:

  • Guiding Principles Documentation (Governance) Team

  • Accounting Reconciliation Team

  • Investment Planning Team

  • Project Revenue Recognition Team

Research Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Monday 4pm UTC and contribute to one of the following active workgroups:

  • Bankless Research

  • DAO Sentiment Tracker

  • TestDAO

Operations Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Tuesday 6pm UTC and contribute to one of the following workstreams:

  • DAO Cartography

  • Coordinate

  • NPS Surveys / NPS Implementor

  • Community Calls

  • Notion Administration

  • Seasonal Planning

  • Community Stewards

  • Discord Administration

  • GM.xyz | web3 native social media

Marketing Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Thursday 6pm UTC and contribute to one of the following workstreams:

  • External Marketing Campaign Team

  • Content Creation on Social Media:

    • Twitter
    • Instagram
    • Facebook
    • Telegram
    • LinkedIn
    • TikTok

Legal Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Thursday 3pm UTC and contribute to one of the following workstreams:

  • Decentralized Law

  • Tax Corner

  • Whitepaper

  • Crypto Legal Observations

  • DAO legal entity

Education Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Sunday 3pm UTC and contribute to one of the following workgroups:

  • Administrator Workgroup

  • Education Workgroup

  • Cross-Guild Coordination & Promotion Workgroup

  • Talent Coordinator Workgroup

Design Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Wednesday 4pm UTC and contribute to one of the following projects:

  • Community Call POAP design

  • Instagram Strategy & Design for BanklessDAO

  • Decentralized Arts Weekly Spotlight

  • DAO Heat Design Contest

  • Design Guild Weekly Newsletter

  • Bankless Designers - The Drawing Board Website

  • External Marketing Campaign Team

DAOlationships

  • Join the weekly calls on Monday 7pm UTC and contribute to one of the following workstreams:

  • Focused Demos & Presentation

  • AMA Special Ops

  • PMA (Pitch Me Anything) Workgroup

  • External Marketing Campaign Team

Developer’s Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Monday 6pm UTC and contribute to one of the following projects:

  • Bankless Academy

  • Bankless Checkout

  • Bankless Loans

  • Bounty Board

  • DAO Website

  • DEGEN

  • Dev First Quest

  • Dev Guild - Knowledge Session

  • Gov Bots

  • Mad Hatter - The BanklessDAO Discord Bot

  • Mobile App/Content Gateway

  • Solidity Training

Audio-Visual Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Wednesday 7pm UTC and contribute to one of the following initatives:

  • AV Guild Services Workgroup

  • External Marketing Campaign Team

  • Youtube GQ Team

  • Podcast Hatchery

  • BanklessHQ Clips

Analytics Guild

  • Join the weekly calls on Thursday 2am UTC and contribute to one of the following workstreams:

  • DAO Dash

  • Bounty Board Queries

  • Onboard MVO

  • POAP Metrics/Analytics

  • Discord Data/Metrics

  • DAO Member Categories

  • DAO Treasury Dashboard

  • Twitter Analytics

  • Tipping Metrics/Analytics

  • BANK Trading Volume

  • Social Media Metrics

  • Current BANK Allocation

  • Social Analytics for B2B-Initiative

Additional List of Projects of Interest:

  • Bankless Card
  • Bankless Academy
  • Crypto Sapiens
  • Podcast Hatchery
  • BanklessAfrica
  • Bankless DAOplomats
  • The Rug
  • Governator
  • DAOversity
  • Bankless Mobile App
  • Bankless Nouns WTF
  • Bankless Loans
  • BanklessDAO Weekly Rollup
  • bDAO at global events
  • Fight Club (NFT gated)
  • IMN - International Media Nodes
  • Ultrasound Merch Supply Chain

Additional details regarding specific projects can be found within the “proposal” column of the BanklessDAO Projects Notion:

SPECIFICATION

ConsenSys employees will go through the bDAO onboarding process and then select a project or guild workstream that fits their skills.

This will include tapping into the new joiner session, first quest, and joining the first few community calls every Friday.

From there, ConsenSys employees will have the option to allocate a percentage of their work time towards their respective initiative, with the goal of driving value and additional manpower towards these projects.

Communication & Marketing

This initiative is a first of its kind and we should highlight that. After discussion with the proposal’s working group, we’ve outlined the following communications and marketing strategy to pair with this initiative (assuming it passes community vote).

  • ConsenSys Marketing/PR Announcement

    • Bankless DAO marketing assistance (retweets, sharing on socials, different media outlets, etc.)
    • Bankless HQ marketing assistance (retweets, sharing in bankless HQ media assets); ex. Weekly Rollup podcast (Fridays) and Market Mondays newsletter (Mondays)
  • Twitter Spaces with Bankless DAO x ConsenSys

Roadmap/Timeline

Here’s a high level roadmap for this initiative.

  • September 13th

    • Proposal posted in Bankless Forum
  • September 19th (Week of)

    • Proposal voting complete
    • ConsenSys Marketing/PR Announcement
    • ConsenSys employee vetting begins
  • October 3rd

    • ConsenSys employees officially join Bankless DAO
  • October 17th

    • ConsenSys employees begin applying to various Bankless DAO guilds
  • November 10th - ConsenSys DAO Day #5

    • Bankless Presentation and/or Co-working Session? ConsenSys contributors discuss some of the projects they’re working on?
  • January 9th, 2023

    • Program concludes. ConsenSys and Bankless share learnings (internally)

SUCCESS METRICS OR KPIS

Success metrics for the initial phase of this partnership will be as follows:

  1. Total number of ConsenSys employees successfully onboarded to Bankless DAO

  2. Total number of ConsenSys employees successfully onboarded into a project/guild

  3. Bankless DAO project and guild leader evaluations of new talent & value add

  4. Total number of ConsenSys employees who complete a joint survey providing feedback to both ConsenSys and Bankless DAO regarding the onboarding and contribution process at Bankless DAO

NEXT STEPS

  1. ConsenSys will provide a CSV file with the names/Discord names of 50 employees to the Bankless DAO team

  2. Bankless will supply Guest Passes to these ConsenSys employees - giving them Level 1 access to the Bankless DAO discord
    *These employees will receive a “Guest Pass” tag on their Discord IDs

  3. ConsenSys employees will review all appropriate onboarding documentation for the Bankless DAO (Ex. BanklessDAO Cheat Sheet for New Joiners, Official Website) and will join the DAO and begin applying to various guilds

  4. Bankless will notify various talent coordinators at each respective guild that ConsenSys employees will be applying to join their guild (although this does not guarantee that these employees will be accepted to these particular guilds)

TL;DR

  • Bankless DAO to be onboarded as ConsenSys ‘DAOlationship’ Partner
  • ConsenSys to be onboarded as Bankless DAO partner
  • ConsenSys employees will have the option to contribute to Bankless DAO as would any other individual of the DAO contributor process
  • Bankless DAO will offer additional stewardship, educational materials and support to an agreed upon capacity
    • Completely voluntary amount of time and resource requirement
    • ConsenSys will allocate equal value of partnership
  • ConsenSys employees will be treated as individuals within the DAO and will contribute for 1-3 months as a trial period without full intention of joining or contributing
  • If ConsenSys employees decide to join the DAO and/ or contribute, that will be up to the individual
  • All the work provided by ConsenSys employees will not be the property of ConsenSys. Ownership of IP will be under the jurisdiction or governance of the DAO.
  • ConsenSys employees officially joining the DAO will have to purchase BANK in the same manner as other contributors
  • ConsenSys employees will not be forced to work on any projects and will be responsible for their own professional output and agreements while participating in the DAO

SQUAD BACKGROUND

Erikson Herman is a DAO Strategist at ConsenSys and a Membership Committee member at Friends With Benefits (FWB).

Matt Wright is the Director of DAOs + web3 Community at ConsenSys as well as the Managing Partner at EVM Fund.

April Kim is a Product Research and Development team member at ConsenSys with a focus on DAOs.

Lucas Campbell is a Senior Editor at Bankless, a genesis member of Bankless DAO and a founding member of Fire Eyes DAO.

Senad Dilji is a Research PM at Bankless, a DAOlationships Guild Coordinator at Bankless DAO, and a DAOlationships Team Lead at Weavr DAO.

Each of us are excited to help onboard ConsenSys employees to the Bankless DAO ecosystem and to help better the wider Ethereum ecosystem. WAGMI :sparkles:

Poll

  • Approve ConsenSys DAOlationship Proposal
  • Deny

0 voters

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Love the energy behind this proposal! Few questions/comments:

  • How will the Guest Passes for Consensys employees be renewed when they are automatically removed by Mad Hatter after 2 weeks?
  • for the marketing assistance from BanklessDAO, have you contacted the Marketing Guild about this? I think they charge a bit for their service (retweets, Twitter Space, etc) , so you could request a little bit of BANK to ease this friction
  • When you say “Total number of ConsenSys employees successfully onboarded”, are you saying total number DURING the 3 month period, or the amount who stay after?
  • How are you planning on getting project/guild coordinator evaluation of talent?
  • In terms of guilds, I notice the Project Management Guild isn’t included in your list, but could definitely welcome some ConsenSys contributors if there is interest
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Awesome work guys….LFG

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tldr

  • This should be paid under a specialized onboarding program
  • Contributors only get 1k Bank an hour so inequities in bringing salaried employees from elsewhere, especially from a big & rich company
  • Will it impact our culture of work
  • Participating projects and guilds should be consulted

Have you talked to the leads of the projects or guilds to ask if they are cool with this?
Are the Consensys team in this process receiving compensation from ConsenSys(like considered work hours? If so you don’t see the inequity here when BDAO members work for 1k BANK an hour. People entering for the team can’t be seen as regular members
Is the purpose of this to better inform you of the interworkings of a DAO to help build a better product? What will you do with this experience?
How do we ensure this will not affect the current culture or work of the Guilds?

Suggestion
If onboarding is the goal, then fund a specialized onboarding program ( which will benefit BDAO members), we can select appropriate stewards who we can compensate for their time and projects they participate in. I think this needs to be better scope. I would also suggest a team of 10 a month.

There is an opportunity to co-learn but also to equitably compensate people for their time and knowledge, so atmo it doesn’t seem beneficial to BDAO. If someone argues the talent then we are undermining the talent we have here - were not without it just well-funded projects and perhaps leadership within them for more people to participate meaningfully.

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I agree with Feems here: We aren’t onboarding specific members here, we are onboarding paid ConsenSys employees.

1)I consider an active banklessDAO person to be contributing 5-10 hours a week. One full day is 1/4th that, so we are getting a member of banklessDAO that is only committed to our organization in as far as Consensus is, and we are basically allowing them to perform an ethnographic study on us and then monetize that information through the knowledge gained by their employees. I don’t think this is a fair partnership to BanklessDAO as written.

2)This changes, of course, if ConsenSys turns web3 in which our values become much more aligned, or pays us money to basically place their members in an internship program where they can learn from us and profit from their members ethnographic gleanings of our DAO.

Note that I obviously don’t have a problem with individual members of ConsenSys joining our DAO.

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Agree with Feems points.

I do want to partner with Consensys as our long term vision aligns for a greater success of Web3, but these terms seem to weigh quite heavily on the potential engagement of full-time employees, with no real commitment to a long term working initiative.

Especially since Consensus is one of the “big & rich” companies in our space and paying for 50 permanent memberships is about $35k at present pricing. I’d be slightly more interested in some sort of bulk discount or ongoing onboarding arrangement, than a one-time guest pass in-and-out tour.

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I’m generally in support of this because I believe it has the potential to bring in some new ideas and potentially talent. It’s also great content for marketing. That being said, it’d be great to ask for some deliverables if they aren’t paying to get this guided and focused collaborative experience with zero actual commitment to stick around.

Asking for a report (e.g. a forum proposal) or some sort of other concrete deliverable like co-marketing commitment from either each participant and/or the entire cohort could be a beneficial alternative to discounted bulk membership or monetary exchange.

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I am a bit surprised with the pushback. These are potential contributors like any other. They aren’t necessarily asking to be paid BANK, just to contribute and learn. Isn’t that our mission?

I don’t think adding a new source of contributors undermines the talent we currently have available to us, and we are stronger together. What am I missing @feems ?

Definitely see the potential cultural issues arising, though. On top of that, our onboarding processes are. not at 100%. First quest bot is still down isn’t it?

This may be an opportunity to test the season pass idea @0xJustice has been mentioning. 3 month access for a fee.

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Just want to add partnership is a great thing just some things to consider. I think with a more refined scope it can be a win win for all.

I think it’s important to think about our members, especially those that don’t have the luxury of fancy jobs, apartments and time. BDAO is one community, and we should advocate for everyone and not the few - meaning we have to look at things from different people’s points of view.

Also why? It’s not to learn and become better contributors is to better inform for their future products (it;s a business not a charity- and DAOs should be thinking like business too) : DAOs and Web3 Governance Participation | ConsenSys

Which is cool; if you want to use this experience for customer discovery okay but provide us with a fund to better develop an onboarding program that we can use later on for other companies or orgs.

We need to start valuing our position in the space, our reputation as a DAO and the large membership we have - that’s worth something to the market.

Tbh first quest bot and our current onboarding is not there yet. I have to individually onboard people to BDAO first, asking what they want to do and then connecting them with the right people. Do our guilds have seasonal onboarding roles paid by the Guild (will they not be compensated for the extra work)?

Is their contribution valuable (if we got subject matter experts to assist in areas of most need for free for us that’s beneficial)? If we are onboarding folks paid to be there from a company into projects they have no background, how does that benefit us? How do the people leading those projects to feel about not getting compensated for the extra work?

They are not any potential contributors they are coming as a team from a company. If they want to enter as individuals, we welcome that.
My above statements have described the inequity financially (they are being paid by their company to be there). Also, the shift in potential culture it would have to work group, not to mention that none of the project workstream leads were consulted.

DAOs provide an opportunity for people to participate, lead and shine independent of where they come from or who they worked with. When you bring in a major company, it will shift (they aren’t representing themselves they are representing a company with large weight in the space ).

I provided a solution, I’m not against them learning and onboarding but let’s develop a proper program (mostly learning from guild onboarding) as we can also use that to reinenege current members who have not seen a place for them to contribute.

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Thanks everyone for the feedback!

To be crystal clear on what’s being asked - This proposal is requesting 50 guest passes from Bankless DAO to distribute to ConsenSys employees. In return, bDAO gets a wave of new web3 native talent that could contribute and add value to bDAO initiatives + some marketing/branding muscle from ConsenSys.

To answer some questions:

Have you talked to the leads of the projects or guilds to ask if they are cool with this?

It’s ultimately up to the project leads and guild leads if they want to onboard that specific human (and if they would add value).

It would be just like any other contributor coming into Bankless DAO - the difference is the partnership is distributing a bulk temp membership to ConsenSys. I don’t really see any difference in the onboarding/vetting process than any other standard contributor being onboarded - it’s just an option for both the ConsenSys employee and the Guild/Project Lead.

How will the Guest Passes for Consensys employees be renewed when they are automatically removed by Mad Hatter after 2 weeks?

I was actually unaware that Mad Hatter was removing guest passes after 2 weeks - this is on me.

I think there’s two avenues: (1) have a separate role for ConsenSys employees which acts as a longer term temp pass or (2) as Links mentioned, distribute/sell bulk NFTs that grant temp access to the Discord. Open to either of these but the latter would require more discussion from the ConsenSys side

For the marketing assistance from BanklessDAO, have you contacted the Marketing Guild about this? I think they charge a bit for their service (retweets, Twitter Space, etc) , so you could request a little bit of BANK to ease this friction

I was personally planning on handling the bulk of the marketing lift (running the twitter spaces, tweets, etc.). Obviously, I would love help from the marketing guild if there’s capacity.

That said, we were planning on posting a follow-up proposal to create a paid working group (onboarding + marketing) for this engagement on the bDAO side assuming there was enough interest from the community to pass it!

Wanted to get a vibe check before we did that though.

When you say “Total number of ConsenSys employees successfully onboarded”, are you saying total number DURING the 3 month period, or the amount who stay after?

Both! We want to measure engagement during and after the formal trial period.

How are you planning on getting project/guild coordinator evaluation of talent?

The proposal group would issue two surveys to both ConsenSys employees and Project/Guild Leads to gauge the sentiment/feedback from the engagement.

In terms of guilds, I notice the Project Management Guild isn’t included in your list, but could definitely welcome some ConsenSys contributors if there is interest

We can add this! There’s a lot of initiatives within bDAO so apologies if we missed some :stuck_out_tongue:

Overall, my personal view (which is why I wanted to bring this to the table) is that this would be a really solid opportunity for bDAO to have the option to tap into some new high quality talent + gain a ton of brand recognition with one of the biggest companies in the industry.

Hopefully this answers some of the questions!

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As long as you find a way to be equitable to the bankless side of the coin with folks who are working with paid consensys staff, fair. Or if this project does not include employees being paid bank on consensys side, brilliant.

Or if consensys has come up with a donation or investment even. Brilliant.

If the staff is getting remunerated from bank + they’re getting regular salary, you’re creating pay discrepancies in a world where we’re trying to stop pay discrepancies.

For now, I would say no.

however, I’m confident you’ll find the way to make it fair. When that happens, party!

The issue is probably pay when it’s all said and done.

You’re bringing salaried employees into a community of contributors who are really just trying to make it. These employees could be amazing (assuming they are).

Which could potentially make what’s already a challenge for some people to figure out how to meaningfully contribute and make a living for themselves an even greater challenge.

Lose those every day folk and you’ve already lost the plot with helping this DAO focus go mainstream.

We have to learn how to be equitable. This (as it looks right now). Does not ring equitable to me.

However. As I said, y’all will find a way.

even just using a different pass (is it DAOplomat?) versus 3 month guest pass trial period would make this whole proposal look so much better.

@0x_Lucas, @senad.eth , @mattwright :fire: proposal.

ConsenSys is the grand-daddy here, and I have personally worked with some of the co-sponsors on their side. From the CEO down, ConsenSys is committed to empowering and enabling DAOs.

This partnership not only provides the benefits outlined in the proposal, but also allows us to pass along our values, ethos, and vibes back to the ConsenSys folks as they continue along the journey. They will be brining these values back to other DAOs they explore with, integrating them within their organization, and helping to build tools that solve obvious needs that they are trained to spot.

As far as the culture and the payment is concerned, @feems , @dancingpenguin.eth , etc., it is up to us as the BanklessDAO community to welcome these professionals into our projects, clearly define expectations on how they can contribute, and how we can learn from them. I look at this as a barter of talent for culture.

Hopefully many of our new friends from ConsenSys will continue to participate well after the trial period, and become core members here. Hopefully, they will see the value and talent we can provide, and bring opportunities to partner with us on other endeavors including revenue generating ones.

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I think if an L2 or Admin will manually add the role this can over-ride the mad hatter and the guess pass will extend to more then 2 weeks, i remember having my guess pass for more then 2 months, but this was a long time ago and maybe things changed? We can only test. cc: @links @nonsensetwice

I do see @feems thoughts and agree with some of them but i feel thatthe dao can only add balue and elevate the dao with more talent onboard. I agee with this, but in other hand, ConsenSys can not afford 35k x 50 members = 1.75m bank x 0.0114$ = almost $20k - peanuts for them? :slight_smile:

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I really appreciate what this proposal tries to explore, as our community needs to recruit more talents across different professions/cultures/regions. I voted yes, but here are two points that should be considered before implementation.

1. Why free guest pass?

The proposal suggests providing some extra effort and support for this partnership. It’s fair to charge some BANK compared with onboarding a group of regular members.

2. Possible Talent Gap

The 50 new members from ConsenSys would take up a big portion of the total active contributors in BDAO. I know ConsenSys employees must be great talents and SMEs. But if they become actively contribute to BDAO and then leave together after the trial period, it would create talent gaps for those guilds/projects that they are part of. Some of the 50 ppl may choose to stay contributing, but we need to be prepared. To prevent the talent gap happen, I suggest we could arrange for them to join in different batches and at different time points, e.g. split into three batches and onboard every 3-4 weeks.

Overall, I think this proposal opens a new way for BDAO to recruit talents, and we need to test and improve it along the way. Great job the Squad!

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you know that none of this even requires a proposal the scope squad can do the onboarding and create a campaign for it with the Marketing Guild

you need to draft a proposal for the Marketing Guild and to HQ, proposals in the forums do not bind HQ

Bankless will notify various talent coordinators at each respective guild that ConsenSys employees will be applying to join their guild (although this does not guarantee that these employees will be accepted to these particular guilds)

by “bankless” you mean the Scope Squad

Bankless DAO will offer additional stewardship, educational materials and support to an agreed upon capacity

again by Bankless DAO you mean YOU the Scope Squad will… You can’t just write a propsoal and mandate that the Education Guild and Marketing Guild do your work for you. You, the scope squad need to tell us the dao what you are going to do and how you, the scope squad, are going to do it

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I am from the Marketing Guild, and we would be more than happy to find capacity to support the marketing campaign for this collaboration. You just need to ask. I believe @feems has some very valid points about the equitable nature of the collaboration, which we need to ensure is in place. This is a community, and a large one at that, where initiatives are simply driven by passion and nothing else. So, the cultural fit of this collaboration is paramount. But I also believe @RunTheJewelz has some strong points - if ConsenSys believes in DAOs, then we should give them an opportunity to experience it from the inside.

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This could in fact be a proper testing theory that could be used to bring in a mass amount of non DAO native (isnt consensys web3?) through a proper onboarding process, and to analysis the experience that they have.

I wonder about the pay situation with respect to this project.

I was told that there is a focus on not letting bank endlessly fly out of the treasury, so I would wonder if the bottom line shows us and funding exchange between the two parties.

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I have a few thoughts/questions.

  1. Would it be possible to create a DAOLationship guest pass or an alternative guest pass for the 50 ConsenSys employees?
  2. We would not have to pay/reimburse ConsenSys or ConsenSys employees/reps with any BANK, for services or tokens of any sort, correct?
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I second both points.

I think that the collaboration idea is great indeed, but I also feel it might require more planning, preparation, and cross-guild arrangements.

50 active contributors will create and leave a gap which we might need some extra planning for.

In an attempt of avoiding repeating arguments already made, I would recommend reviewing the proposed timeline, leaving more space for planning and consultations with the guilds.