Royal Orleans

I have no idea whether or not it's real:

https://www.icollector.com/item.aspx?i=51572357

Is there evidence of him wearing it? I can’t imagine he’d have Bonzo but who knows.

Sequoia wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:16 pm Is there evidence of him wearing it? I can’t imagine he’d have Bonzo but who knows.

I'd imagine that they would have had many made at the same time.

Is it wrong I want that and I'd wear it?

man I'm skeptical about a plush red bathrobe with kind of cheesy looking swan song logo on it and "Bonzo" on the front as if it was a letterman's jacket

Having the record company logo on it, it seems like they'd have made them for all 4 members? And this is for Bonzo?

is there any sort of corroborative source for origin of this thing?

Skeptical, party of…probably most everyone on here.

The Swan Song logo is the Achilles’ Heel (ooh, puns!)

Article below with the story.


https://vancouversun.com/entertainment/ ... on-auction

dhatchell wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:19 am Article below with the story.


https://vancouversun.com/entertainment/ ... on-auction

Lance Stadnyk was Brian Adams' guitar tech & developed kidney problems and had to go on dialysis. He caught COVID-19, which turned into pneumonia, and he died on May 29, 2022, at age 68.

“I was at Lance’s one day and I said, ‘What is your most prized possession?’ ” said Learie. “He said, ‘I’ve got John Bonham’s housecoat. I was in the States at a big party and we were all hammered. At five in the morning I left my room and Bonham was coming down the hallway wearing the housecoat.’

“Lance said, ‘Hey John, give me that housecoat for a souvenir.’ And he said Bonham whipped it off and said, ‘Take it!’ ”

The housecoat or robe is embroidered with Bonham’s nickname “Bonzo,” and has Led Zeppelin’s Swan Song logo on the back.

ok, so Bryan Adams' guitar tech, Mark Lance Stadnyk, who collected memorabilia and has died in 2022 at 68 would have been around 23 years old the last time John Bonham was in the United States, I believe, in 1977.

His story, which was are hearing 4th hand, (Lance > his friend Leary > the reporter for the Vancouver Sun > us) is that he was at an unnamed party at an unnamed place, in the US, in some unnamed year when Bonham was still alive, at 5am, where they had rooms (like maybe a hotel?) and Bonham gave this 23 yr old (or younger if it was earlier than 77) this cheesy bathrobe / housecoat in the hallway.

Eh.

In 1977, the last time Bonham was in the United States, this Mark Lance Stadnyk fellow was 23 and unlikely to be attending whatever party where Led Zeppelin was, let alone have a room on their floor. He best friend wrote in his obituary that has worked for Bryan Adams later in life. Would not have been 1977. What would be his connection in 1977? He's from Vancouver so is he saying he partied with Led Zeppelin during the Seattle '77 date? The stay where they tossed the TVs out the windows from the Edgewater?

That seems about as likely as Bonzo wearing a red robe around a hotel party and handing it to some random kid that happened to be partying in the same hotel, on the same floor and had his own room, down from John Bonham, in the US, in 1977. But that's what he says.

Actually, it completely fits the style of several known tour robes made for each member of the band ...for several tours. Yes, w/ embroidered name on the collar and a Swan Song patch....if not more.

https://www.ledzeppelin.com/photos/memo ... ntage-swag (several examples in the pages here)

jameskg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:28 am In 1977, the last time Bonham was in the United States, this Mark Lance Stadnyk fellow was 23 and unlikely to be attending whatever party where Led Zeppelin was, let alone have a room on their floor. He best friend wrote in his obituary that has worked for Bryan Adams later in life. Would not have been 1977. What would be his connection in 1977? He's from Vancouver so is he saying he partied with Led Zeppelin during the Seattle '77 date? The stay where they tossed the TVs out the windows from the Edgewater?

Two points: Bonzo wasn't much older in 1977 - 29 or so. So claiming that he was unlikely to attend a Zeppelin party is a stretch without any further information. Secondly, the original owner didn't try to make a buck from it. So why would he lie?

I'm not saying it's original - just that we don't have enough info to decide.

Can’t embed the image on my phone but I assume it’s the bathrobe he’s wearing here

https://images.app.goo.gl/ewTRW4qsMexuLULq8

ledzepfilm wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:21 pm Can’t embed the image on my phone but I assume it’s the bathrobe he’s wearing here

https://images.app.goo.gl/ewTRW4qsMexuLULq8

Nice find . Hard to tell for sure his name on the lapel. Looks like there may be something there.

ajoso wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:49 pm

jameskg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:28 am In 1977, the last time Bonham was in the United States, this Mark Lance Stadnyk fellow was 23 and unlikely to be attending whatever party where Led Zeppelin was, let alone have a room on their floor. He best friend wrote in his obituary that has worked for Bryan Adams later in life. Would not have been 1977. What would be his connection in 1977? He's from Vancouver so is he saying he partied with Led Zeppelin during the Seattle '77 date? The stay where they tossed the TVs out the windows from the Edgewater?

Two points: Bonzo wasn't much older in 1977 - 29 or so. So claiming that he was unlikely to attend a Zeppelin party is a stretch without any further information. Secondly, the original owner didn't try to make a buck from it. So why would he lie?

I'm not saying it's original - just that we don't have enough info to decide.

If you were a 23 year old Canadian in 1977, how would you manage to attend a hotel party with Led Zeppelin in the US? Based on what he this guy says he was told, Lance had a room at the hotel and on the same floor as Bonham.

Now maybe that happened but the manager of the Edgewater has said Zeppelin checked in in secret, using random names, because they'd been banned from there, due t the mudshark incident before. The management later found it it was Zeppelin, after they'd moved in.
How would Lance, just some guy who would work for Bryan Adams 10+ years later, have managed a room at the same hotel and on the same hall as John Bonham (based on his statement)?

it's not impossible and the guy did end up being a very successful collector of memorabilia but this particular acquisition story seems like a real stretch, to me.

It looks like it could be the robe that he wears during the acoustic set in Seattle ‘77. You can see the Swan Song logo only one time, right after Robert yells “Stryder”. Bonzo turns to his left and you see the back of the robe. There is the Swan Song logo patch and another patch above it. If you look at the closeup of the logo patch on the auction website, it looks like there was another patch above the logo that must have been removed at some point. Seems very plausible to me.

LarryBadgely wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:38 pm It looks like it could be the robe that he wears during the acoustic set in Seattle ‘77. You can see the Swan Song logo only one time, right after Robert yells “Stryder”. Bonzo turns to his left and you see the back of the robe. There is the Swan Song logo patch and another patch above it. If you look at the closeup of the logo patch on the auction website, it looks like there was another patch above the logo that must have been removed at some point. Seems very plausible to me.

Awesome spot regarding the Seattle footage! I believe you are correct. I did notice a section on the robe where another patch appears to have been.

Robert
www.anextranickel.com

Yeah, you can actually see where the top bit was removed at some point:


Seattle acoustic set showing back of robe:

The Icarus patch looks to be a different shape on its extremities than the auction patch. Watching the video makes that a bit more obvious than just this screencap, to me, but here it is. Look at the direction of the hands and the bottom-right wing tip. In the vid, you can see the Icarus patch seems to be different.




back of robe in auction with Icarus / Lucifer looking different on it's hands and wing tips - but you can easily see where some oval patch has been removed from a spot that matches the robe in the video of Seattle.








Also, though, it seems this robe was altered a good bit... there is no "Bonzo" embroidery on the front lapels in the video (there is a spot where he kind of turns the front to the cam after Evermore) or in the couple pics of him wearing it:





but the pics associated with his auction seem to show the "Bonzo" embroidery on alternate sides.

How does that happen?

There must be at least two of these robes around... They have clearly taken pictures of two different robes' fronts, but they are only auctioning a single robe.






On the first pic, "Bonzo" is on the outside of the leftlapel.

On the Second pic, "Bonzo" is on the inside of the right lapel.


I suppose it could have both... but you cannot see the stitching on the other side on either pic.

I think maybe you’re assuming someone is wearing the robe in the first pic. They are not. They are holding the lapel out to show it. The embroidery is on the left lapel in both cases (the robe-wearer’s left, not from the observer’s viewpoint). Also, if you look at where the letters cross the (don’t know the correct term) stitching on the lapel, they are an exact match. That would never match that well if they were two different robes.

LarryBadgely wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:48 pm I think maybe you’re assuming someone is wearing the robe in the first pic. They are not. They are holding the lapel out to show it. The embroidery is on the left lapel in both cases (the robe-wearer’s left, not from the observer’s viewpoint). Also, if you look at where the letters cross the (don’t know the correct term) stitching on the lapel, they are an exact match. That would never match that well if they were two different robes.

I have to concur with the Dr here. You can also match the stain a few inches below the embroidery.

yeah maybe the way it folded when held accounts for that


still odd we do not see it on the robe Bonzo was wearing in those pics. Maybe it just barely managed to be obscured.



seems like we'd see it here:

I bet most of those pics from the front w/o shown embroidery were just random red robes. There are pics of red robes in 75, 73, etc... Coming off of a hot stage covered in sweat, you are headed backstage which goes directly to the load in area near the tunnels/truck bays. In the winter, I'd bet it's pretty chilly.

as for the tour robes w/ swan song and embroidering...I'd bet they mostly stayed at the hotel and plain backstage robes were just part of their rider. There's also first hand accounts of Cole handing out 4 red plush robes to all members as they neared the limo after walking directly from the stage to the limo in 75. I seriously doubt he's going to be looking at names to make sure they get the ones w/ their names on them. There were also blue tour robes w/ the swan song logo in front (no embroidered names) in 77. Being there were just 4 members...I'd bet there were numerous robes given to them by Swan Song offices (just like the track suits)...but only a few have ever seen the resale market. A few of Bonham's, a few of Robert's. Never seen a Jimmy or John Paul.




and lastly, here's 75 Bonzo sitting next to a pile of plush robes w/ the fat triple/quadruple hemmed lapel/hoodies.


I'd say the majority of backstage pics w/ robes...are just robes. Not the unique one of a kind "tour robes".

jameskg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 7:46 pm The Icarus patch looks to be a different shape on its extremities than the auction patch. Watching the video makes that a bit more obvious than just this screencap, to me, but here it is. Look at the direction of the hands and the bottom-right wing tip. In the vid, you can see the Icarus patch seems to be different.

The angle of the hands just looks like a crease in the robe from the way he's sitting

This could be the worst thread ever.

jameskg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:48 pm If you were a 23 year old Canadian in 1977, how would you manage to attend a hotel party with Led Zeppelin in the US? Based on what he this guy says he was told, Lance had a room at the hotel and on the same floor as Bonham.

You'd drive down and reserve a hotel room. That simple. You're assuming that this guy didn't have any connections; in order for the story to happen he probably did.

But you are right in that the story needs further explanation.

Percy Thrower wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:35 am This could be the worst thread ever.

Thank you!

ajoso wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:08 am

Percy Thrower wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:35 am This could be the worst thread ever.

Thank you!

People doing forensic testing on a dressing gown like it’s an episode of CSI