Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 05:41 PM Nov 2022

BREAKING: ... youth turnout in Wisconsin is *360%* HIGHER than in 2018.

BREAKING: talking w/ the Chair of the Wisconsin Dem Party @benwikler, who confirms youth turnout in Wisconsin is *360%* HIGHER than in 2018. If you're in Wisconsin, remember that there is same-day voter registration. Get out there & cast your ballot. 7 hours left. Let's win this.

Note: that 360% was the *pre-election* rate. And young people are not stopping there. Urge everyone you know to vote -- and even if they aren't registered, they can do so in line! LFG.











59 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
BREAKING: ... youth turnout in Wisconsin is *360%* HIGHER than in 2018. (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2022 OP
💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙 live love laugh Nov 2022 #1
Great Traildogbob Nov 2022 #22
Bluto said it best. TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #34
Go you youth, go! GreenWave Nov 2022 #2
My daughter traveled from NJ to work the GOTV TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #35
Please thank her for me! MLAA Nov 2022 #37
It'd better be! lindysalsagal Nov 2022 #3
Nice. These would be first time voters that those likely voter models won't catch. Claustrum Nov 2022 #4
Way to On Wisconsin, Wisconsin. a kennedy Nov 2022 #5
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2022 #6
Let's hope Ron Johnson gets fired. Marius25 Nov 2022 #7
Let's hope his exit has long coattails, too. GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #21
+1 K&R!!! onetexan Nov 2022 #45
Fantastic! Qutzupalotl Nov 2022 #8
You hope that's a good thing, right? EnergizedLib Nov 2022 #9
It is a good thing. Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #11
Bernie worked hard in Wisconsin. Emile Nov 2022 #10
+1 CentralMass Nov 2022 #24
Ben Wikler is so good ! OnDoutside Nov 2022 #12
Where is he getting these numbers? BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #13
Good question. triron Nov 2022 #15
It must be from the Other category on target smart that was 29% and they would be first time voters. Ellipsis Nov 2022 #18
Don't let the facts interfere with good Hopium. WarGamer Nov 2022 #17
Apparently that info is coming directly from the Chair of the WI Democratic Party BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #19
Ok. But where is he getting his numbers from? progressoid Nov 2022 #38
It's possible that it's coming from the WI SOS? BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #40
I don't know about Wisconsin but here we don't have any progressoid Nov 2022 #41
They would know who requested a ballot BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #47
New registrations and absentee ballot requests are public info. sybylla Nov 2022 #48
Just to add to your post (because I knew some stuff can be requested with a fee) but in PA BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #52
This is YUGE!!! Thank u for posting! onetexan Nov 2022 #46
Well for one thing he is not talking about party affiliation.. its the youth vote overall. honest.abe Nov 2022 #20
From your source??? grantcart Nov 2022 #25
Yes, but that's all voters, not youth voters. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2022 #27
It has it by age 70% over 50 but that's not the issue grantcart Nov 2022 #29
Excellent question. sybylla Nov 2022 #50
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Nov 2022 #14
And I'm guessing the polls failed to capture this accurately if at all. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #16
Cherry picking early voting stats grantcart Nov 2022 #23
Great points awesomerwb1 Nov 2022 #32
👍💙👍 electric_blue68 Nov 2022 #26
Well, alrighty then! dchill Nov 2022 #28
Not to be a party pooper awesomerwb1 Nov 2022 #30
Well he may be cherry picking stats exaggerating minor sub categories but grantcart Nov 2022 #33
Apparently it's actually 260% higher, which is 360% AS HIGH. Towlie Nov 2022 #31
One thing I've noticed is a LOT of youth activists on TikTok and they aren't playing ismnotwasm Nov 2022 #36
That is awesome!!! ShazzieB Nov 2022 #39
Turnout at my polling place was very heavy this morning Poiuyt Nov 2022 #42
I hope Johnson gets trounced. LiberalFighter Nov 2022 #43
I felt it! I believed ... they would turn out in high numbers as the biggest protest vote ever! Samrob Nov 2022 #44
young does not mean dem in wisconsin...lots of trump flags in high school parking lots dembotoz Nov 2022 #49
No voting group votes 100% one way or another. Maybe Wisconsin isn't as lopsided as eleswhere Tom Rinaldo Nov 2022 #51
And college campuses do not mean dem either. milestogo Nov 2022 #54
I was thrilled when he was hired in WI Ruby the Liberal Nov 2022 #53
I like it republianmushroom Nov 2022 #55
I had two young people greet us and direct us at our polling place at 7am. TigressDem Nov 2022 #56
That's a lot more than just two yoots Kennah Nov 2022 #57
If we could just get the spring breakers from Wisconsin to vote in Florida... Sancho Nov 2022 #58
That would be the sweetest display ever! Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #59

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
4. Nice. These would be first time voters that those likely voter models won't catch.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 05:42 PM
Nov 2022

I hope it's the same across the US and hope that they will break for democrats heavily.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
21. Let's hope his exit has long coattails, too.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:11 PM
Nov 2022

As in he takes out a lot of downticket GOPers with him.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
13. Where is he getting these numbers?
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 05:50 PM
Nov 2022

Wisconsin doesn't have party registration, so people aren't officially Dems or Repubs.

If you look at TargetSmart, the 18-29 age group comprised only 1.9% of the early vote in Wisconsin, down from 4.0% in 2018 and 5.5% in 2020.

https://targetearly.targetsmart.com/g2022?demo_filters=%5B%7B%22key%22%3A%22age%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22All%22%7D%5D&state=WI&view_type=state

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
18. It must be from the Other category on target smart that was 29% and they would be first time voters.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:05 PM
Nov 2022

Winkler is the Dem chair. I'm sure he has internals and I'm sure they were focusing on the youth vote.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
19. Apparently that info is coming directly from the Chair of the WI Democratic Party
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:07 PM
Nov 2022

Ben Wikler - https://twitter.com/benwikler




Wisconsin Democrats
@WisDems
·
Follow
Wisconsin, our Early Vote turnout has been HUGE! This momentum can't, and won't, stop.

Make your plan to vote today AND invite three friends to join you at the polls: http://myvote.wi.gov

#WinWithWisDems #ElectionDay
Image
11:31 AM · Nov 8, 2022





Wisconsin Democrats
·
Nov 8, 2022
@WisDems
·
Follow
Replying to @WisDems
Share this post to help us turn out even more voters! #WinWithWisDems
Wisconsin Democrats
@WisDems
·
Follow
WOW! We’re continuing to see huge numbers from the final early vote totals we got today.

Wisconsin, we've still got work ahead of us. We can't let up now! Make your plan to vote by 8PM TODAY: http://myvote.wi.gov
#ElectionDay #WinWithWisDems
Image
3:15 PM · Nov 8, 2022


(am thinking "youth" vote is not just limited to that 18 - 29 but might be including the next group up).

Also mixed in that account's reweets was this -




Sunrise Movement 🌅
@sunrisemvmt
·
Follow
NEW: The line of students at UW Eau Claire voting today!!!

Young people are showing up and fighting back.
2:21 PM · Nov 8, 2022

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
40. It's possible that it's coming from the WI SOS?
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:12 PM
Nov 2022


I would think the parties have a line of "internal" communications between themselves and state officials (in whatever capacity might be allowable) in terms of reviewing/validating registrations and other election data, rules/procedures, etc.

The SOS is a (D) (who is apparently up for election this year too).

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
41. I don't know about Wisconsin but here we don't have any
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:20 PM
Nov 2022

Specific demographics until after the polls close.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
47. They would know who requested a ballot
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:37 PM
Nov 2022

and who turned one in and have all sorts of demographics on that person because in order to register to vote they usually need some sort of government ID and/or birth certificate, etc., which would include race and gender, among other things.

Hell here in Philly, they recently released lists of names (along with birth year/zips/precincts next to the name) of voters who needed to "cure" their ballots. I was actually surprised that they did the birth year thing but then that could be to account for people who have the same name so they can determine whether they or someone else needed to take action (especially since probably 99.9% of people would have no idea what their "Voter ID" number is! All of this stuff is barcoded (and even QR-coded) now.




Lisa Deeley
@DeeleyforPhilly
·
Follow
My statement on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's ruling on undated and incorrectly dated mail ballots below.
It is strongly advised that the voters on these lists request a replacement ballot to avoid the potential rejection of their ballot. https://vote.phila.gov/news/2022/11/05/ballots-administratively-determined-to-have-no-secrecy-envelope-or-no-signature-no-date-or-a-potentially-incorrect-date-on-return-envelope
Image
6:07 PM · Nov 5, 2022


For example, their list (PDF) of those missing signatures - https://vote.phila.gov/files/announcements/11_4_2022_No_signature.pdf

sybylla

(8,509 posts)
48. New registrations and absentee ballot requests are public info.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:45 PM
Nov 2022

If they've done good data collection, they could certainly come up with a number like this.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
52. Just to add to your post (because I knew some stuff can be requested with a fee) but in PA
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:08 PM
Nov 2022

they have this interesting thing I found from the PA Dept. of State Data Hub site - https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElections/BEST/Pages/Data-Hub.aspx

How to Request Data

Don’t see a particular dataset online? Pennsylvania residents have the ability to make a Right to Know Law request for data that may not already be publicly available on the Department’s website. Please see below for more information.

If you’d like to submit a Right to Know Law request for data, please email [email protected].


Statewide Absentee and Mail-in Voter File

Currently, registered Pennsylvania voters, candidates or political parties may request a statewide file of all voters who have requested and returned absentee or mail-in ballots. This list will contain a list of applications that were requested and whether the ballot was mailed or returned to the county board of elections. In order to receive this list, you must complete the Statewide Absentee and Mail-in Voter Request form and send it to the Bureau for review and approval. The email account is listed below.

If you’d like to get in contact with the Bureau of Election Security and Technology for other data requests, please email [email protected].


This is apparently as a result of PA's 2009 "Right to Know" law - https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/RTKL/About.cfm

There is certain info that is "public". But there is other info the state has that is considered "PII" (Personaly Identifiable Information) that a couple state loons (including one who was the GOP President Pro-tem of the state Senate) subpoened the state for (i.e, PII for 9 million PA voters). Josh Shapiro, our AG (and (D) candidate for governor) successfully sued them. That happened a year ago.




Josh Shapiro
·
Sep 24, 2021
@JoshShapiroPA
·
Follow
Governor candidate, PA
Pennsylvania Senate Republicans want to take your social security numbers, driver’s license numbers — and give them to an unknown third party to fuel their sham “audit.”

That’s why yesterday, I sued them in court to protect your right to privacy — and our democracy.
Josh Shapiro
@JoshShapiroPA
·
Follow
Governor candidate, PA
msnbc.com
Pennsylvania A.G. moves to protect voter data from state Republican 'audit' stunt
Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro talks with Rachel Maddow about his new lawsuit to stop state Republicans from collecting the personal data of every Pennsylvania voter and handing it to an...
6:45 PM · Sep 24, 2021

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
20. Well for one thing he is not talking about party affiliation.. its the youth vote overall.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:08 PM
Nov 2022

Also, not sure he is talking about early vote before election day or early vote today.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
25. From your source???
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:36 PM
Nov 2022

Scroll down your link and Target Smart shows voting by party by day with yesterday Dems up 20k

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
27. Yes, but that's all voters, not youth voters.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:38 PM
Nov 2022

Not that it matters. We'll all start finding out the real numbers soon enough.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
29. It has it by age 70% over 50 but that's not the issue
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:43 PM
Nov 2022

WI doesn't have registration by party affiliation so is Target Smart getting that data?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
23. Cherry picking early voting stats
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:30 PM
Nov 2022

You can pick a stat here or there but the aggregate in Wisconsin early voting is Dem + 3 %

18-29 year olds are only 5% of early vote, easy to have big increase when the base number is so low.

The total vote for 18-49 is only 30%

Women's vote is up 53 to 42 but the bottom line is that it is still only Democrats+ 3

Higher women numbers are a good indicator but we need independent women to pull our way and Republican women to cross over.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
30. Not to be a party pooper
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:46 PM
Nov 2022

but isn't Victor Shi the same guy who's really (REALLY) bad at percentages from last week?

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
31. Apparently it's actually 260% higher, which is 360% AS HIGH.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:46 PM
Nov 2022

 
?

Good news, bad math.

"In Wisconsin, so far, compared to 2018... the youth vote is at 360%."

If it was at 100% then it would be 100% as high, meaning the same as before.
If it was at 150% then it would be 50% higher.
If it was at 200% then it would be 100% higher.
If it was at 300% then it would be 200% higher.
But since it was at 360% then it's 260% higher.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
36. One thing I've noticed is a LOT of youth activists on TikTok and they aren't playing
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 06:56 PM
Nov 2022

It’s GOTV, and #voteblue.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
44. I felt it! I believed ... they would turn out in high numbers as the biggest protest vote ever!
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:28 PM
Nov 2022

Not just in WI but all over. Wait for it!

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
49. young does not mean dem in wisconsin...lots of trump flags in high school parking lots
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:45 PM
Nov 2022

lots of dumb drunk kids who don't know better.

I live in milwaukee burbs

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
51. No voting group votes 100% one way or another. Maybe Wisconsin isn't as lopsided as eleswhere
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:50 PM
Nov 2022

But I would really be surprised if a majority of young voters in Wisconsin aren't voting Democratic. With that assumption, the more young people voting the better.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
54. And college campuses do not mean dem either.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:51 PM
Nov 2022

Lots of students vote in their home districts, and vote with their parents.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
53. I was thrilled when he was hired in WI
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:32 PM
Nov 2022

I remember thinking after watching him crank up the volume up there to watch this kid - he'll be running the DNC within a decade.


TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
56. I had two young people greet us and direct us at our polling place at 7am.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 09:49 PM
Nov 2022

As I walked out I told them I was really proud of them for stepping up and I also thanked all my poll workers.

I said. "With poll workers all over getting death threats and being harassed, thank you for your service."


Live in Minnesota and it hasn't been too bad except a few years ago we had lurkers supposedly "helping" people with their vote or something, but they were skin heads and scary.


Worst part is Minnesota has been redistricted. I fear 2024 in a big way. The state looks mostly red.

Even now...

State House Map
Packed Wins? 4.6% favoring R
Mean-Median? +1.7% R
Partisan Bias? +3.7% R

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/redistricting-report-card?planId=recoj2FD1N6K28GeT


State Senate Map
Packed Wins? 6.7% favoring R
Mean-Median? +3.3% R
Partisan Bias? +6.7% R

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/redistricting-report-card?planId=recQsJeCYDmWD0uJs


Congressional Map
Packed Wins? 8.2% favoring R
Mean-Median? +3.7% R
Partisan Bias? +12.5% R

https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/redistricting-report-card?planId=rec2aeaJI4oyMbkrI

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
58. If we could just get the spring breakers from Wisconsin to vote in Florida...
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 10:39 AM
Nov 2022

...our young people are AOL.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»BREAKING: ... youth turn...