I'm grateful to Anton Sorkin for welcoming me to his podcast for the Christian Legal Society, a kind invitation to discuss my article, A Sermon on the Law: The Jurisprudence of Law, and wrestling the implications of love (agape, neighbor-love) as the central organizing principle of the law, policy, government, and politics. This is part 1; next week we discuss Christian Realism and mass incarceration. I hope it's a fruitful conversation.