Just for the hell of it, you know what I am going to do? Since it is a mème now, let us bask in how Jim Downey made himself known on Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend on Sept. 25, 2023.

Jim Downey: ‘I am Jim Downey, and I feel… unapologetic about being Conan O’Brien’s friend.

‘There are, there are many, many figures in our society who contribute an enormous amount to our culture, and people who have unconventional personal lives. And yet they they seemed exempt from criticism. Jeffrey Epstein…’

Conan O’Brien: ‘Wait a minute, wait a minute!’

Jim Downey: ‘No-no, let me finish… Jeffrey Epstein, I see it, no one — no one criticizes him… and yet I have to—'

Conan: ‘Wait a minute, wait a minute!’

Downey: ‘—I have to apologize for the fact that I know Conan O’Brien.’

Conan: ‘Wait a minute!’

Downey: ‘That is a double standard, and it is wrong."‘

Conan: ‘Jim, hold on, hold on, hold on! Much has been said, much has been said about Jeffrey Epstein. Terrible things!’

Downey: ‘No, “Jeff.” I'm talking about Jeff Epstein, the New York financier.’

Conan: ‘Yes, we're talking about the same Jeff Epstein.’

Downey: ‘No.’

Conan: ‘Yes!’

Downey: ‘No.’

Conan: ‘Yes!’

Downey: ‘I — what — I never, I never heard…’

Conan: 'Oh, it was a big story in the news! Huge!’

Downey: ‘No.’

Conan: 'Yes. For you you to say no one ever said—’

Downey: ‘Jeff Epstein?

Conan: ‘Yes.’

Downey: ‘‘Jeff Epstein?’

Conan: “Yes — the financier.’

Downey: ‘With the island?’

Conan: ‘Yes, he had an island! That I've never been to!’

Downey: ‘I'm pretty sure — with respect — if there was some news about Jeff Epstein I would have heard about it.”

Conan: ‘I don't know where you've…. what rock you've been under. It was a huge story. And I have to… Jeff Epstein is, I have to tell you, he's gone.’

Downey: ‘What do you mean?’

Conan: 'He’s dead.’

Downey: ‘He’s dead? No. Haha. Sorry! Nice try. If Jeff, if Jeff Epstein, if Jeff Epstein were deceased. I'm pretty sure I would know about it. Now I admit I've not probably since the pandemic, I've not talked to him.’

Conan: ‘That would make sense, that would make sense. He's been dead for a number of years.’

Downey: “I tell you, there’s one easy way. Let's call Ghislaine Maxwell.’

Conan: ‘No we're not calling Ghislaine Maxwell.’

Downey: ‘Why not? Okay—’

Conan: ‘She’s in prison. She’s in prison for crimes she committed with Jeff Epstein.’

Downey: ‘Ghislaine’s in prison?!’

Conan: ‘Yes! Stop calling her Ghislaine! How do you know these people?!’

Downey: ‘Conan, alright…’

Conan: ‘Jim, Jim, Jim, listen to me…’

Downey: ‘Okay, I'm just saying I don't I'm your friend, you… you know what? It doesn't matter what you do in your private affairs—’

Conan: ‘I don't do anything in my private life!’

Downey: ‘Okay, but anyway I'm your friend—’

Conan: “All right, well, thank you for the worst—’

Downey: ‘—And I make no apologies.’

Conan: ‘—For the worst introduction to this podcast I've ever heard.’