I had some more thoughts about discussing vaccine issues with vaccinated people initially resistant to acknowledging harm from vaccines. Through this recent substack article, I have become more willing to express my views to some of my vaccinated friends. Unlike Steve, I don't have the position to approach members of congress and prominent scientists. I think another participant in this discussion pushed me to consider why I bother trying to express my views--how will that prevent vaccine mandates and stop this vaccine madness?! In the short run (and maybe in the long run) perhaps this does nothing to help our cause. But does everything we do concerning vaccines have to help the cause--or else stop doing it? I do feel better each person that becomes more likely to tolerate the unvaccinated (and that means me!) I do feel better speaking freely about my opinion. It's such a relief to have the tables turned and have people ask hard questions of the authorities that rammed vaccine mandates down our throats and will keep trying to do this. Offering support and a community to unvaccinated feeling oppressed and bullied by the mainstream (Peter Hottetz thinks we are domestic terrorists for God's sake) is very important. Be able to speak our truth. Support the contrarian view concerning vaccine unsafety and ineffectiveness. That to me is worthwhile and can be done in addition to other actions designed to more directly to block vaccine passports and mandates. So it's not either or. It's BOTH AND.