I can take it back even farther, Dan. What got me was Barry Saddler singing “Fighting Soldiers from the Sky.” That was almost pre-SEALS. I went through jump school with a platoon of SEALs, and that was the first time I ever heard of them. Then came Marchinko and Rogue Warrior. He did a lot of damage. The daughter of a good friend, a former SF guy who served in RVN, married one of the plankholders in DEVGRU. He died on her and then she discovered he had failed to un-marry his former wife. '

So Rogue becomes vogue, and here we are.

I had dinner last night with a guy who went through BUDS 32, or something like that. He is 84. He stuck with UDT and cleared the beaches at Danang for the Marines to land. He and his boys were standing on shore in their shorts and K-bars, smoking cigars and holding signs saying Welcome Marines.

He was not rogue. You were not rogue. But a lot have become so.