I really enjoyed this and can only say hallelujah - thank you joining us world! I like the point you make about the context being more benign for this work because of the language around psychological safety - round of applause for everyone pioneering in this field. I also wonder to what degree people appreciate their own capacity for meaning making and would articulate the capacity to make meaning being something that makes us distinctively human? Outside of people attending classes in philosophy to what degree is meaning making “a thing” in education?