After college I lived in the same area as the Duggars for a few years and ran in some of the same circles (this was long before the TV show). I remember going to monthly meetings of a group that both Jim Bob and I were involved with. Jim Bob would walk in to the meeting trailed by 5 or 6 little ones, the boys all in suits and ties like their dad and the girls all in identical dresses (I was wearing jeans, these weren’t formal events). And I remember being pleasantly amazed at how quiet and well behaved those young children were in this room full of adults discussing adult business over the course of an hour or two. I thought that this was the platonic ideal of a Christian family, because everyone in my evangelical world insisted that this model of parental control was absolutely required and Godly, and if only earlier generations had done this the 60s and the Sexual Revolution never would have happened. And now I look back on that memory with horror, realizing just how creepy that behavior actually was.