I would like to know how many adult children who “discontinue contact” use their minor children (ie the grandchildren) as pawns/weapons against the kids’ grandparents. It seems that using children in this way is a red flag for discard/elder abuse, as opposed to estrangement for legitimate reasons. In a legitimate estrangement, the parent would keep the children safe. In discard/elder abuse, theres a game being played where both the grandchildren and grandparents suffer emotional abuse while the adult child uses theirs kids (who have healthy bonds with loving grandparents) to punish any minor misstep. (I’m not talking about “grandparent sexually abused grandchildren “ but “you won’t serve my husband coffee the way he wants, thus yhe grandkids will no longer speak with you, and in fact will be told lies in order to make them think you are evil.”