A year and a half ago, MLBTR’s Anthony Franco examined potential trade partners for the Cubs as they reportedly shopped center fielder Cody Bellinger ahead of the 2023 trade deadline. Chicago, of course, played their way back into contention and opted to hold onto Bellinger through the remainder of the year before signing him to a three-year, $80MM deal last winter that afforded Bellinger the opportunity to opt out after either the 2024 or ’25 seasons. With rookies Pete Crow-Armstrong and Michael Busch having emerged as the club’s everyday options at center field and first base, however, Bellinger’s fit in Chicago has become much murkier headed into 2025.
That’s led them to once again explore a trade involving the outfielder, but the market for Bellinger’s services figures to be much softer this time around. Bellinger slashed an incredible .317/.367/.545 (144 wRC+) in 324 plate appearances prior to last year’s trade deadline while playing center field on a regular basis for the Cubs, making him the most attractive rental hitter on the market at that time. Flash forward to today, and Bellinger is coming off a much less robust offensive performance: while his strikeout (15.6%) and walk (7.9%) rates remained excellent in 2024, his power dipped substantially and he didn’t enjoy the same luck on balls in play he did the year prior, leaving him with a .266/.325/.426 slash line that was still above average (109 wRC+) but a far cry from the production that earned him down-ballot MVP consideration in his first year as a Cub.
That production, solid as it may be, is not in line with the $27.5MM salary Bellinger is poised to earn in 2025. What’s more, any acquiring club would be on the hook for a $25MM player option for 2026 (or a $5MM buyout should Bellinger test free agency) that only serves to increase the potential financial burden associated with trading for Bellinger. With that being said, the 29-year-old remains an above average hitter who is capable of playing solid defense at all three outfield spots and first base, making him a solid option for teams looking to raise the floor in their lineup. For teams looking for a solution in center, specifically, Bellinger may well prove to be the best option available in a market that is otherwise led by the light-hitting, glove-first Harrison Bader. Even among first baseman, Bellinger looks to be one of the better options available when compared to a free agent class that features aging veterans like Paul Goldschmidt, Carlos Santana, and Justin Turner among its best options.
Bellinger’s combination of a quality lefty bat that needn’t be part of a platoon and the ability to play both center field and first base make him a compelling trade target for a surprising number of teams. Of course, his hefty salary will immediately eliminate many clubs from consideration. The Twins, Guardians, Royals, Rays, Padres, and Rockies all seem like long shots to stomach an AAV north of $26MM this year. The White Sox and Marlins are in the midst of lengthy rebuilds and seem unlikely to spend that sort of money on a short-term player like Bellinger, as well. It would be a surprise to see the Cubs deal Bellinger to a division rival while attempting to contend for the postseason, which eliminates the Reds, Brewers, Pirates, and Cardinals from consideration.
Additionally, the Rangers are already loaded with talent both in the outfield and at first base, and the Mariners have signaled they don’t intend to add to their outfield this winter. Meanwhile, the Red Sox, Orioles, and Tigers could pursue help in at least one of Bellinger’s positions but appear more likely to pursue right-handed hitters who can better balance their heavily left-handed lineups. The Dodgers and Mets are decent enough surface level fits, but appear more likely to pursue a more offensively impactful corner bat given their internal options in center field. That still leaves ten teams as plausible fits for a Bellinger trade, though. Let’s take a look at each of them…
Best Fits:
- Astros: The Astros currently have bigger fish to fry as they attempt to retain franchise third baseman Alex Bregman. With Houston self-admittedly requiring some “creativity” to add salary, it seems likely that a Bregman reunion could leave the club without the funds necessary to deal for Bellinger. With that said, though, Bellinger’s ability to play all three outfield spots and first base should make him an attractive option for Houston that would allow them to play match-ups with Jon Singleton, Jake Meyers, and Chas McCormick by slotting Bellinger in at the position of whichever player is on the bench that day. What’s more, the Cubs’ need for bullpen help this winter and their hesitance to commit to long-term deals for relievers could make veteran reliever Ryan Pressly an attractive target for them in terms of a return while also clearing $14MM off the Astros’ books to facilitate other additions.
- Blue Jays: The Blue Jays are in the thick of the Juan Soto sweepstakes, and like the other Soto suitors on this list would likely only have interest in Bellinger should they fail to land the offseason’s top free agent. In the event Soto signs elsewhere, however, Toronto may be among the best fits for Bellinger out there. The club has previously expressed interest in Bellinger during both of his recent forays into free agency, and if the Jays fail to land Soto he could make plenty of sense for the club as an upgrade to their current options in left field who wouldn’t require the sort of long-term contract that could complicate the club’s pursuit of a long-term deal with Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Toronto outfielders posted a lackluster wRC+ of just 87 last year, meaning even Bellinger’s diminished 109 figure from this past season would be a substantial upgrade to say nothing of the impact he could have should his power production bounce back in 2025.
- Phillies: The Phillies haven’t been shy about their hopes of restructuring their offense this winter, and rumors have already begun to swirl regarding the availability of key members of their offense ranging from Alec Bohm to Nick Castellanos. One clear area where the Phils could stand to upgrade is in the outfield, where the club currently figures to utilize Castellanos, Johan Rojas, and Brandon Marsh on a regular basis. Philadelphia’s 92 wRC+ in the outfield last year was lackluster, however, and each of those aforementioned options posted a wRC+ lower than that of Bellinger last year. By adding Bellinger to the lineup as an everyday player who splits time between left and center field, the Phillies would be able to effectively platoon Marsh and Rojas while still playing both at their respective best positions, while a free agent corner bat such as Jurickson Profar or Tyler O’Neill would require Marsh to play center field on a regular basis.
- Yankees: The Yankees figure to focus their efforts this winter on reuniting with Soto, but if the club misses out him they’ll have holes to fill both in the outfield and at first base. Signing Bellinger could allow the Yankees to move Aaron Judge back to right field on a regular basis, where he profiles best defensively and where he’ll likely suffer less wear-and-tear throughout the season. While Soto’s departure is surely the most likely avenue to Bellinger in a Yankees uniform, their hole at first base and the possibility that Jasson Dominguez isn’t ready for an everyday job in the majors make the club at least a plausible fit for his services even if they bring Soto back, with Bellinger playing the outfield until Dominguez is ready to take over before shifting to first base. Such a scenario figures to be a long shot, however, given Dominguez’s stature within the organization as a long-time top prospect.
Next Tier Down:
- Angels: The Angels have been among the more aggressive teams so far this winter as they look to contend following a 99-loss season in 2024. They’ve already added Jorge Soler to the lineup as a regular DH and Travis d’Arnaud as depth behind Logan O’Hoppe at catcher, but the club reportedly remains interested in adding another bat to their lineup. Bellinger is as good a fit for the club’s roster as any outfielder. The team is light on lefty bats, with only Nolan Schanuel at first base and the switch-hitting Luis Rengifo at second projected to be in the club’s starting lineup next year. Bellinger would be a substantial upgrade over the Jo Adell/Mickey Moniak platoon the Halos currently project to use in right field, and could slide seamlessly over to center field to either give Mike Trout a break from the demanding position or cover for him in the event he suffers another injury-plagued season in 2025.
- Athletics: While the presence of the A’s on this list might strike some as surprising given how they’ve operated in recent years, there’s at least some merit in considering Bellinger’s fit in West Sacramento. All indications have pointed towards the A’s being open to a substantial increase to their payroll this winter and an earnest effort to improve their on-the-field product in the years leading up to their impending move to Las Vegas, but their current stadium situation could make courting free agents difficult due to the club playing in a minor league ballpark for the time being. That’s led GM David Forst to suggest the club is focused on the trade market rather than free agency as they look to upgrade the roster, and Bellinger could be quite a strong fit among trade candidates. He’s unlikely to be especially expensive in terms of trade capital, meaning that swinging a deal for him wouldn’t do much damage to the club’s long-term competitiveness, and the former MVP could offer a level of star power the club currently lacks. Meanwhile, he’d be a major upgrade on the field for a club that’s relying on Seth Brown and his 91 wRC+ last year in left field headed into 2025.
- Diamondbacks: The Diamondbacks figure to have plenty of room to add a player like Bellinger to their positional mix after losing Christian Walker and Joc Pederson to free agency this winter. While the club’s lineup leans left-handed, the loss of Pederson could make them more open to the addition of another lefty bat than other heavily-lefty clubs like the Red Sox and Orioles. The addition of Bellinger could also make it easier for the club to stomach the loss of one of their many young outfielders via trade, particularly as he shares an ability to play center with trade candidates Jake McCarthy and Alek Thomas. While Bellinger’s salary could be a problem for the Diamondbacks in theory, it’s much easier to imagine them stomaching his contract if they’re able to move the salary of southpaw Jordan Montgomery this winter, as the club is seemingly quite motivated to do after negative comments from club owner Ken Kendrick about the lefty’s disastrous 2024 season.
Longer Shots:
- Braves: It would be something of a surprise to see the Braves swing a trade for Bellinger despite the hole in their lineup in left field. The club has been aggressive in making moves to clear payroll room as they stare down the possibility of losing Max Fried from their rotation, and while it’s easy to imagine them dedicating those resources to a splash at shortstop for a player like Willy Adames, using that financial capital to acquire Bellinger would be a surprise given the availability of more affordable depth options in the outfield such as Austin Hays and Mike Tauchman who could join Jarred Kelenic in the mix for starts in left field without breaking the bank. With that being said, the Braves have shown a willingness to add significant salary on short-term arrangements with players like Marcell Ozuna and Josh Donaldson in the past, and it’s difficult to count out a GM as unpredictable as Alex Anthopoulos for most trade scenarios.
- Giants: The Giants have long been in search of star power for their lineup, and while Bellinger does not carry the same level of impact as he did during his MVP days with their arch-rival Dodgers, he would still add an everyday player with significant name recognition to a relatively non-descript San Francisco lineup. Aside from that surface level fit, however, the Giants lost Michael Conforto to free agency earlier this winter and fellow outfielder Mike Yastrzemski is viewed as a trade candidate. Adding Bellinger, then, could offer the club an alternative to Conforto and Yaz in the outfield to pair with Jung Hoo Lee and the club’s crop of young outfielders. With that being said, a fit with the Giants appears unlikely given the fact that the club is currently expected to scale back its payroll this year, a goal with which adding Bellinger’s hefty salary would be misaligned.
- Nationals: Given the Nationals’ many quality young outfielders, they aren’t necessarily the most straightforward landing spot for Bellinger. With that being said, however, the club has a massive hole at first base that Bellinger could slide into quite easily, providing a boost to a lineup that appears to be on the cusp of contention. Bellinger would also be able to take some pressure off of the club’s crop of young outfielders, offering an alternative to Jacob Young in center against tough right-handers and providing a back-up option in the corners should either James Wood or Dylan Crews struggle at some point in their first wire-to-wire big league campaigns.
Yankees. Take on all of his salary, move Stroman or Cortes more likely Cortes for him. He’s athletic and great defense, we don’t have much of that here.
Stay with the cubs. You both are horrible.
you truly dont know true meaning of horrible if you think belli is bad
He’s obviously a redturd fan.
Bellinger isn’t bad but he is overpaid.
Cards and Cubs finished with the same record, right? Cards are cutting payroll for next season, right?
Texas Jon gray and prospect
Don’t the Mainers need a first basemen? Or out raley at first and Cody in the outfield.
It’s gonna be the A’s.
Nobody wants him opting in to that final year in his contract and he’s guaranteed to opt out of playing another year in a minor league park.
If he’s good, that trade him at the deadline.
If he’s bad, the A’s get the union off their back and don’t have to deal with him opting in.
Blue Jays ain’t trading Bassitt…I wanted the Orioles to get Chris…but the Blue Jays put the word on the street no trading Bassitt
Maybe it will change later thus upcoming season…but for now
What is this article talking about? Bellinger on the mariners would be a great fit since we need a first baseman and could use a rightfielder, the only hang up would be the cost of bellinger (99% sure ownership won’t add this much payroll)
I know it would be a lot of money for mainly a first baseman yet other people like Christian walker are older and have the same risk as belly
I would probably do bellinger for Mitch garver and an unregarded prospect (or bellinger+a good prospect for garver and harry ford)
Cubs would want a good prospect to take on Garver. At least Clay is productive.
I’m sorry, I don’t agree with any of that. Muskie laid it out pretty well above.
“While attempting to contend”, what have they done that gives anyone the impression that the Cubs are attempting to contend? The Cubs thoughts are maybe they can bring a few guys up from Iowa who can be productive while hopefully Milwaukee slides back and other teams in the division don’t improve. Management has let it be known that they would love to compete for the division, that’s it with no bigger aspirations and they can’t even do that
the cubs being bad doesn’t mean they aren’t trying to contend. everything theyve told the media and fans was that they feel they are close. heck if they had an actual closer last year that didnt blow 10+ games they would be in a completely different position. they have the 7th highest payroll, that to me signals they are ‘attempting to contend’
You sound like a Cardinals fan Oldguy. Geez where did the entitlement come from?
Of course they Cubs are trying to contend. And their top 6 prospects are all projected to be ready in 2025. So they either gotta make room for them or trade them. It’s not the worst problem to have…..
Cubs have terrible roster construction, nothing more. If trading Bellinger means they can field a bullpen that doesn’t blow 30 games, I am all for it.
Yeah Cubs could have won the division last year with a better bullpen.
Does Pete Alonso not exist
He can’t play cf
In the article they talk about him playing first base and mention the free agent 1b available but not Alonso…
Unless talking about cheap teams he should be mentioned as the 1a free agent 1b
Does a Nico Hoerner + Cody Bellinger package have a positive or negative overall trade value?
Cubs needs catching and starters.
Seems like there’s a framework for a deal built around Bellinger and Hoerner for Jose Trevino and Nestor Cortes.
Maybe some prospects to the Cubs if they retain some salary.
Your NOT getting Belli and Hoerner for both Trevino and Cortes
This aint MLB the Show
Bellinger has negative trade value. Hoerner has positive trade value but he’s hurt. I think the trade proposal is reasonable.
To answer the original question maybe 10 million in surplus value. The Bellinger contract is complicating.
I’d pass from the Yankees end. That’s taking on like 77M for 2 years in exchange for about 20M — and have to throw in prospects too?
1) Rather take $66M of that for 3 years of Christian Walker. Then have Cortes, Trevino and prospects to make other trades.
2) Or 2 years of Cortes for 2 years of Naylor.
I just don’t see the need for Bellinger especially at that salary.
@CONservative +1 great screen name
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The Cubs won’t catch the Brewers because they’re not particularly strong at anything. And they don’t know which way the wind will be blowing next season.
Being that Bellinger family lives in AZ, his roots are strong in the Gilbert area. I can see the D’Backs needs as a first baseman, don’t see them resigning Walker. Also, see Thomas as a trade candidate, and if they can get a stop of the line closure by trade, I do see them trading McCarthy in a package deal.
AZ gets Bellinger
Chicago get Montgomery, Thomas (?) or two mid-level prospects.
Cubs have zero need for Thomas. Young SPs would be their preference.
Cubs have a need to reduce them from his salary, so yeah that comes at a price on what they get back
Bellinger’s contract is a negative contract, so the Cubs take what is offered or just shut and keep him… They don’t get a controllable young SP for him…
I like that ! Arizona is a great fit imo
Ya AZ is a really good fit with Montgomery. Both making about the same money but because of Montgomerys down year Az would need to include a back end top 30 type in a deal. Most likely a LH reliever type. People sleeping a little bit in Cody tho. He’s still a really good baseball player. His defense is just smooth man. But ya makes sense for the cubs to deal with the emergence of PCA
Maybe he hates his family. Have you stalked him on social media to confirm? He doesn’t have no trade. Arizona doesn’t care if he wants to go there or not.
That seems like a reasonable trade proposal Dawg. I like it.
desertdawg
I agree with you that the Dbacks only trade for Bellinger if the Cubs take Montgomery and his entire contract. The financials still benefit the Cubs by about $9.5M. So, I don’t think the Dbacks have to throw in Thomas or any other player/prospects. Take it or leave it Cubs.
Doubtful any other team would take on the cubs bad decisions
Really ?? What’s less 27 mil to bellinger or paying Alonzo or Walker that same amount over 4 seasons ? Contract isn’t that bad at all pending how the dominos fall
Alonso and Walker are both better options.
Based on Bellinger’s WAR the last few seasons…
His worth is as follows:
2021: Negative 1.7, so obviously worthless
2022: 1.4: so about $11 million
2023: 4.4 so about $36 million
2024: 2.2 so about $18 million
He has averaged out with two outliers over the last four years at about $16 million…
So considering the downside of getting stuck with his contract for 2026 as well…
Bellinger is a huge risk and is grossly OVERPAID.
There all overpaid and have up and down years and come with risk. How long is he going to be on your roster at that cost ? One season. Walker or Alonzo fall off, you have them for 4
Jersey, there is this thing called salary inflation in baseball. Using 2018 figures for FA value doesn’t work. 4.4 WAR was worth $39.6 million in the 2022-2023 offseason. $40.47 million in the 2023-2024 offseason. So far this offseason, granted with very few players to go on, it’s worth just over $70 million. By the time the offseason is over it should be about $42 million, maybe a bit more.
Bellinger’s 2.2 WAR this season will be worth about $21-22 million on the FA market this offseason. He is overpaid. just not as much as you seem to think.
Any team interested would. Cubs bad decisions have absolutely nothing to do with them trading for Bellinger.
Nestor cortes george Lombard and Emerson Pereira to the cubs for bellinger. Yankees take on his full salary and we plug him at 1st base. The yankees then pivot to sign anthony Santander to play left field making the yankees outfield Santander lf Martian cf judge rf back up Grisham (bellinger, Cabrera and Spencer jones as they can also put chisholm out there as well). Yankees infield wells catches bellinger and rice 1b 2b Cabrera and peraza ss volleyball 3b Chisholm unless they ho after adames and make him the 3b moving Jazz to 2b. Then they should go after pitching. Will Warren can be packaged for a reliever. I’d like for them to sign burnes to replace cortes and add tanner scott and Devin williams as your power arms to go with luke weaver. If they bring back Leiter and tim hill the new pen is loaded with a deep rotation. Yes the lose out on Soto but to add adames, bellinger, and santander as well as burnces scott and williams all for the same as Soto. I’m all in
Lmfao!!!!! You’re not getting Lombard and Pieria for Bellinger straight up let alone Cortes. Cubs will need to eat some salary in any trade period or they are stuck with him!
Cubs will be the ones sending prospects if Yankees take on all the salary.
Yanks after they lose out on Soto, which is prob best thing for NY. Can use those resources n plug a few different holes on roster n still have $$$ leftover. Would be nice to see em w/Angels, coming back to LA.
Yankees were interested in Bellinger at the trade deadline in 2023 so there’s interest built up already. I don’t think the Yankees land Soto, I think the Mets outbid Hal. Bellinger would do well in that short porch, and he can play both CF and 1B, both of which he does well, and defense is something the Yankees need.
So you trust that Brian Cashman will actually be able to fill those holes after all the terrible moves he’s made over the last handful of years?
What terrible moves? Acquiring Jazz, Soto and drafting and retaining Dominguez, Cortez, Gil, Schmidt, Wells and Volpre? Every GM makes a bad trade/FA or two ?
Other Stanton he hasn’t made a mind that handcuffed us with Rondon being a TBD. I think he’s done a good job and took some chances that maybe didn’t plan out but didn’t cost us much (Verdugo, the length of DJs contract). I hate the Bader/ Montgomery trade tho. It didn’t make sense to me.
Unfortunately for me, whenever I see the name “Niekro floater” I immediately envision a different type of floater (nothing personal.)
Miami unloaded him and replaced Luis (their lead off hitter) with Xavier Edwards. Xavier was moved to lead off and hit .328, as compared to Arraez’s .314. Arraez is a liability in the field, so he DH’s. Edwards has a solid glove and plays SS. He’s also a much better base runner and a threat to steal 40+ bases.
It would make perfect sense for the Angels to figure out a way to snag Bellinger. That means it won’t happen.
Shhhhh. Let a guy dream.
Not enough room in the outfield for Bellinger, Soto, Varsho, Springer, Teoscar…
Well good thing you will only have 2 of those players and not have that problem.
I fail to see any substantial gain for the Cubs in moving him. With the opt out for ‘26, they’ll more than likely have to pay down a lot of his ‘25 deal. And who would they legitimately replace him with? Say what you want, but he’s an above average player who can’t be legitimately replaced by a rookie or cheap FA. Just keep him.
Yeah, I agree. The 27 mil for this season ain’t terrible. It’s the opt out that kills. So if he’s productive, he opts out and teams only get one season at 32.5 mil. So cubs throw in 5-10 mil to unload him ? That doesn’t make any sense. Plus their lineup is just ok, they need bellinger in the middle of that order
Saw something on MLB Network that they suggested the following
Hoerner, Belli and Horton
For
Vladi Jr and Gausman
If im Cubs im all over that but only with a Vladi extension
IF they don’t have to pay down Bellinger’s ‘25 salary. Gausman and Vlad (extended), are gonna cost a bundle.
They replace him with Armstrong that’s obvious. Armstrong is an exciting player he has a huge floor and if he can even hit just a little he can be a very good player. Plus they have Cassie and Alcantara coming soon.
The gain in moving him is the salary relief they could use for other needs like pen help.
3 seasons into his career, bellinger was elite young player the way we think of bobby witt or gunnar henderson today. Wat the hell happened to him?
Weed
He has a very complicating swing that requires incredible timing and athleticism. When he’s 100% healthy it works when he’s not it doesn’t.
Shoulder injury and surgery?
Injury. The same one Ohtani just had.
The Houston Astros trade Ryan Pressly, Chas McCormick to the Cubs.
Instead of mccormick it eould prob take one of their SP not named framber brown or blanco
Throw Montero in there too, and we’ll take on the whole Bellinger contract.
I’m.. No thanks on Montero.
Cubs fans: Bellinger is an upside down contract, similar to Nick Castellanos. He’s a good player, just over priced. Hear me out on this – Cubs take a gamble on Taijuan Walker, who led the league in wins in 2023 and didn’t miss a turn.
Cubs acquire:
Taijuan Walker SP (2/37mil)
Johan Rojas CF
Rafael Marchan C
Michael Mercado RHP (#19)
Phillies acquire:
Cody Bellinger CF (1-2/27.5-52.5mil)
Nate Pearson RHP (Arb 2 1.0mil)
You get a vet back of the rotation arm that’s healthy now. A young, fast, post season experienced and cheap defensive CF that’s been coached up and helps your pitching staff. A switch hitting catcher with a career OPS over .800 and a live arm in Mercado that you can stretch out in the spring. Has minor league options. As a Phillies fan, I wouldn’t trade anything more than that for an above average player that’s not great. He would be an upgrade in CF and insurance policy on Bryce at 1B.
That’s a bit complicating but I think it’s fair.
Bellinger’s contract is complicated, that’s why most teams want nothing to do with it. Would be surprised to see the Cubs trade him without getting back a pricey player in return. As far as prospects, a team with deep pockets like the Yankees that pretty desperately need a LH bat – may give up a couple of fringe top 20 organizational prospects for him – but would the Cubs even trade him for prospects in a winnable division? Probably not. So if they trade Bellinger, I believe it will be somewhat complicated, just like his contract and career to this point.
They don’t need Rojas. They non tendered Tauchman because of the young outfielders coming up.
What’s the opt out calculus for Bellinger? I see an above average contact hitter who can pull enough fly balls to hit a moderate number of HRs going to market ahead of his age 30 season and I kind of think of Lourdes Gurriel, Jeimer Candelario etc. is a 3/$45m type deal enough to make him opt out of 1/$20m? Or would he take the $20m and assume he could top 2/$25m the next season? Perhaps the CF capability bumps his market value enough to be worth a bit more than that. 3/$51m? I feel like there’s a good gamble to be made here in a multiplayer deal that includes some of the Cubs’ young talent.
I think that’s a more likely trade than simply a team trying to add Belinger and trying to figure out how to value him vs the contract. I think he’s used more as a way to get a good but expensive player but is also attached to one or more of the Cubs’ really good prospects.
Who would want to pay Bellingers contract but also want prospects?
Basically to buy the prospects. Maybe it’s a good but expensive player the Cubs are getting. They wouldn’t want to give up a ton of prospect capital in that case, but a team taking Bellinger off their books could leverage a more premium prospect into the deal that way.
I’m thinking he’s included in some sort of multiplayer trade with major leaguers on both ends of the deal. I see that much more likely than a contender just taking his contract and cash for a non prospect minor leaguer.
Again who is this team that can afford to pay Bellingers contract and wants prospects as part of the deal? It’s not the type of trade that happens often if ever.
Lots of teams if they are sending even more salary back. You’re right that it doesn’t happen often, but it’s the kind of thing that could mitigate the complications of trading that contract. Challenge components and diversification of the packages on both sides of it.
Maybe there’s a framework there for the Twins who might be motivated to get out of Correa’s salary if they want to clean up the long term books ahead of a potential sale. Maybe it’s the Nationals who have really clean books already and can afford the cost inefficient contract of Bellinger and would love to add even more young talent to the system. Maybe it’s the Blue Jays who are a big market team with a terrible farm system who would rather take on the money of Bellinger attached to value in young talent than have to make their own overpay in free agency.
The cost alone seems like he is destined to be a Cubs unless they find a drunk trade partner or pay some of that money where the other team does not have take on such salary.to trade for him – I don’t think he will command a good return.
He 100 percent won’t bring a good return. But he can bring salary relief or a position of greater need.
Bellinger’s Player Option for 2026 is $25 million or a $5 million buy-out. That’s per Cots, Roster Resource, and Spotrac.
Yes and no.
Bellinger gets that $5 million regardless of opting in or out so the option is for $20 million.
Basically he is owed $52.5 million over 2 years if he opts in or $32.5 over 1 year if he opts in.
Reluctantly, I actually see this as a move that improves the Phillies given the state of their OF and buys them time to see how Crawford and Rincones develop. A year for $32.5M is really rich for Bellinger 3.0 so he has a significant net negative trade value. Giving back quality prospects does not work, so either eat the $$ and take him on knowing that it is just a year, or get creative with a bad contract. I wouldn’t mind this if DD & Co. can figure something out.
Player option for 26 so might not be just 1 year
Forgot where I saw this proposed trade
Three Team Trade
Cubs get
Luis Castillo
Harry Ford
Phillies get
Cody Bellinger
Mariners get
Nico Hoerner
As a Cubs fan I’d rather have Kirby but that ain’t happening up less the Cubs give up at least 2 of their top 15 prospects. As long as it’s not Owen Caissie, Matt Shaw or Cade Horton. Seattle can have their pick. I also don’t think Cam Smith will be available either.
I also asked this on the live chat yesterday, but it wasn’t answered.
For the record I don’t want Belli to be traded.
The win-now Seattle Mariners are unlikely to trade Luis Castillo and Harry Ford for prospects and two years of Nico Hoerner coming off concerning flexor tendon surgery.
Philly isn’t letting you dump that awful contract on them even if he is free!
Take Ford out. No reason the Cubs should get Ford.
Of course you don’t want to trade Bellinger. You aren’t paying the bills.
Bellinger and Hoerner for Tork and young pitching. Tork in Wrigley could be fun. Bellinger can play 1B and multiple OF positions and the Tigers like versatility. Shift bodies around to accommodate Hoerner. Lots of interesting arms in Detroits system.
Where does that put Michael Busch? He’s a 1B as his Tork
Busch could slot in for Hoerner couldn’t he? Correct me if I’m wrong though. He played 2B with LA.
That better be a good arm because Tork is not a major league player yet. Cubs have about 6 guys to audition for jobs in the minors in the near future to try out too if they’re not in any near deals
What am I missing here? Do the Tigers have another player named Torkelson? How is he not a major league player yet?
A career .220 hitter will not have a major league career for much longer. It’s still an audition for him at this point. Similar to Chris morel.
Thatc30 HR power still looks good even with a low average. Something to dream on.
I think the Yankees scenario is being significantly underplayed.
Specifically, I think he has value to the Yankees from a recruiting POV in their pursuit of Soto. The Yankees have to convince Soto that they can return to the Series and win, and the more they reinforce their team *while Soto is on the market*, the more plausible their claim will be, especially if they can add without losing key prospects. And Belly may be available pretty much just for his salary…
Bellinger offers the potentially impactful play and name recognition that FA hitters do, which is nice for recruiting, but with just a max of two years left, he does those things for a lower and shorter total outlay than virtually any FA of real recruiting value. With the Yankees having an opening at first base and at least a degree of uncertainty in left, he has a clear path to playing time if split between those positions, especially if he is paired with Rizzo and his inexpensive veteran-ness, playoff-ness, leadership-ness, etc, or another risky 1b like Goldy.
With the Yankees having shown signs last offseason of cost-consciousness and an a wish to let prospects play, they probably want to have Peraza and LeMahieu take most of the PA at second, or else have Chisholm take over 2b and have LeMahieu at third…and of course they want Dominguez to get a shot in left next year, the point being that aren’t going to chase the top infield FAs, or the Teoscar H or Santanders or Alonsos of the world. Belly might help them raise their offensive floor while enabling those things and a cheap Rizzo or Goldschmidt deal, but do so without a long term contract to worry about. That not only makes them better, it also helps them market themselves to Soto.
Finally, it’s also another bay to offset any possible Stanton injuries, and a way of showcasing the Bellinger family connection to Soto in case he is thinking about his family legacy as well…
Soto care about money. The Yankees thinking they can sign him because they can win or they are the Yankees is fantasy.
I think there’s real truth to that, but IMO it’s more like he wants to be paid what he’s worth and play for a good team, rather than an utterly isolated pursuit of absolutely nothing but top dollar.
If a good team offers him a competitive amount but a bad team like, say, the Angels offered him even more, I doubt he would sign. I think the reason Steve Cohen is rightly seen as having an advantage is only partly that he might offer Soto more than anyone else, but equally that he intends to pay for a huge amount of other top talent.
I think that if Soto sees a loser franchise outbidding everyone else, he’ll take the second or third offer instead. So I think it’s only partially true that he’s after the money.
Maybe he also values other things too, like location or team culture.
Cody Bellinger, Ian Happ and Tyson Miller to Phillies for Kyle Schwarber, Taijuan Walker and Brandon Marsh.
The Cubs may have to send some money, and prospects may have to be included in the trade to sweeten the deal for both teams.
Never gonna happen. Happ has a full ntc and it’s already been reported he’s not gonna waive it.
Too many excuses. Lots of options. Real problem is options. His 2026 option makes trade more complicated but teams deal with that all the time. Teams can’t afford his 26m? Well how about the cubs eat some salary and those teams can afford it and give up better prospects? Or those teams dump some overpaid trash of their own? Don’t buy into the not trading in division either. Pirates won 70 some games. Will have 100m payroll. Brought back same awful gm and manager. If you can’t beat them with double the payroll you need the division. If Bellinger single handedly makes them so much better that they win division you better keep him instead of trading him.
Belli is a perfect fit for the Cubs, just getting paid about ten million too much.
Outfield of Happ in right, PCA in Center, and Belli I. Right. Seiya is primary DH put can play right when Belli or Busch sits.
Cubs just need a catcher, a closer, and one more middle reliever. Sure they could use more starting pitching, it more likely they keep Shota, Steele, Taillon, Assad
Perfect fit for any team. Who has a 1b dh and 4 outfielders better than him?
Doval & Yaz for Belli; Cubs get an OF who would probably rake at Wrigley, salary relief and a flier on closer/relief pitcher who just needs to avoid Coors at all costs. The Giants get a good defensive player who has a name SF fans remember. Both teams finish so far away from the playoffs it’s not funny.
I think you guys overrate the lack of in-division trades. This is not the age of the unbalanced schedule or of the single wild card. Multiple teams from a division can and do now make the postseason. Because of that, the need to avoid in division trades is severely lessened, if not eliminated altogether. The Yankees and Red Sox made a significant trade last year. If they are doing it, then pretty much anyone will..
Or they can just, you know, keep him and operate like one of the highest revenue generators in the league instead of the A’s or Marlins.
Wait, the Padres need a lf and have the pieces to get a deal done but…
BUDGET.
More ***flipping*** budget talk with the Padres.
Want to lose a passionate fan base in SD?
Talk budget.
Fans don’t want to talk budget, should not have to talk budget.
‘But you’re not being realistic about the Padres situation’
Shut the fudge up with that bullcrap!
Sports are a fantasy.
Loyalty is a two ways streak.
Reward a passionate Padres fan base that is now Padres Nation.
Don’t squash them with “budget” talk.
Make a splash, whether through a trade or free agent pick up.
towinagain
Want to lose a passionate fan base in SD?
Talk budget.
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LOL! The team is already over the first tax tier, and “currently” #3 in payroll and you’re complaining about them not spending enough?
I Don’t Care.
They are not #3 in payroll.
As of today the Padres are #3 in payroll.
legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/
They won’t end up 3rd without some major additions because the Astros, Yankees, and Mets at a minimum are going to make some huge investments, but as of now they are #3.
They are not #3 in payroll.
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legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/
Look for the (3) next to their name, That is their current payroll ranking.
You’re right about fans not wanting to talk about budgets. That’s a real world concern that causes too much real world angst as it is.
It’s a silly approach, imo. Pretending teams have unlimited budgets can only lead to false expectations and disappointment.
Complaining that the RS aren’t spending as much as their revenue dictates is fair game. Complaining that they aren’t outspending the NYY and LAD, is not.
Then as fans, realistically, unless you’re a fan of the Dodgers and Yankees you should forgo watching baseball.
If you can buy a championship and outspend by an incredibly large amount every team in baseball then what’s the point?
Realistically, you don’t spend then you don’t win.
Oh quit with this baffonery. He isn’t going anywhere.
Im trading the guy with blue hair
Belli could be great in his home town AZ, if the price is right.
The Guardians would be great for Bellinger. Too bad they’ve spent their annual budget on Hedges.
The idea of Cody Bellinger joining Jose Altuve in Houston is interesting (to say the least). Bellinger was outspoken in his criticism of Altuve winning the AL MVP in 20i7, claiming that Altuve stole the award from Aaron Judge by cheating. Bellinger and Altuve meeting up as teammates would be must-see TV.
Buzz lightyear knows it’s true. They’ll be fine.
Trevino and Stroman for Bellinger.
Tigers should look hard at him. Backup plan for center if needed and a solid 1b man. Trade even up for Javy lol, hell even throw in a couple low level prospects too if that works for the Cubs. Gives Tigers a lot of options in OF and at first, and swap 2 bad contracts. Maybe Javy returns to form as a Cub, but if not one of our extra outfield prospects and a reliever might get it done.
the Red Sox …. could pursue help in at least one of Bellinger’s positions
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Just out of curiosity, would that be CF (Rafael), RF (Abreu), or 1B (Casas)? Because all three are better than Belli at about 5% of his price tag.
Angels. Cubs get Adell, Kavadas, and Rendon and Arte sends the Cubs $22.5 million to cover the difference in salaries.
I’m surprised to see so many fans here who want their team to make a trade for Bellinger. As a Dodger fan, I wouldn’t want him back under any circumstances. Let some other team make that mistake.
I couldn’t agree more. I’m surprised to see so many fans wanting their team to acquire him. Over the last 5 seasons he’s been a league average hitter, but is getting paid like an AS. People should ask themselves, if Bellinger is so appealing, why do the Cubs want to trade him?
They want him because they know the name. Think their team can just dump their trash to get him. Same with any trade fantasy.
Last 5 years don’t matter. Teams are only concerned with 2025 2026.
Teams want him because he was better last season than 900 of the 1400 players that took the field for a MLB team this season. If he repeats 2023 he will be in top 25-30 in the game.
They want him despite the fact that he makes $26M per year, and there are 500 better players in the league?
I’m not. For some reason people on here act like he’s a superstar. I was glad when he was gone. One of the most overrated Dodgers in recent memory.
Other than the division, the pirates are a near perfect fit.
OF and first base help. Average+ bat. That shouldnt cost an arm and a leg assuming no major bidding war.
Cody and 7.5m in 2025 and 5m for 2026. Or there bouts
Bednar, a franchise top 10 prospect. Delay or triolo depending on needs a mid range bench ceiling prospect.
If Pirates are taking on that much salary no need for all that. They can get him for free. He’s a negative value player and it’s not close. Cubs would need to pay most salary to get all of that.
Division doesn’t matter. If Bellinger is the difference maker between Pittsburgh winning division over the Cubs they wouldn’t be trading him.
Bellinger is trojan horse. Nuttings only going to allow how much $. 20 some million a year on Bellinger handcuffs them from doing other things.
I was thinking Bednar to help offset to the cost.
Franchise top 10 because I was thinking it was 2 years of team control not a player option.. brain fart.. so pull that back quite a bit.
I guess it all comes down to how much salary the cubs are willing to eat. if it comes down to 20m i think that is do able.
BUT Id rather pick up a free agent like Paul Goldschmidt to fill that 1b hole.
Cubs looked idiotic the day they signed it. It’s worked out about as well as it could have.
For the Dbacks, I’d rather have Christian Walker at 3 yrs/$60M, than Bellinger at 2 yrs/$52.5M. 3/$60M is what Trade Rumors projects Walker will receive. Even if that figure is low and the Dbacks have to spend 4/$75M, I’d still rather have Walker than Bellinger.
From the Dbacks’ perspective, trading Montgomery for Bellinger is probably Option 4. And one of the first 3 Options are absolutely most likely to happen.
Option 1 is to sign Free Agent Carlos Santana to platoon with Pavin Smith at 1b, and share time at DH with Ketel Marte and Jordan Lawler.
Option 2 is to sign Paul Goldschmidt to do the same thing.
Option 3 is to re-sign Walker. Walker never said he didn’t want to be a Dback, he just said this was his first chance to test the waters of Free Agency and he planned to do just that. So the Dbacks have a better shot at signing Walker than any other team, IF the Dbacks are willing to spend that kind of money. Therefore, they would prefer spending big money on Walker rather than Bellinger. That makes Bellinger Option 4.
Dbacks would only do Options 3 or 4 if they could unload Montgomery’s contract. But if they did trade all of Montgomery’s contract, re-signing Walker is entirely feasible. And there is a market for Montgomery.
Braves do make sense but I don’t see it. And honestly, I kinda hope they stay away. He’s too much of a roller coaster and the Braves are full of nothing but roller coasters. We need steady guys who will be exactly what the #s are the entire year and won’t be elite at times but bottom feeders other times
That’s a lot of writing for Cody Bellinger lol.
Cody Bellinger is a singularly bizarre case to me:
He’s a very good player who’s decent even when he’s playing more toward the worst version of himself, he consistently gets large salaries and yet Greek epics are written analyzing why everybody wants to avoid him like the plague, dump him or replace him any way they possibly can.
So what’s the reality here?
He’s the epitome of “nobody wants him or needs him but someone pays him like the best player at his position in the league and immediately wants a way to dump him.”
I can’t really think of any player at the moment whose treatment by analysts or fans is more bipolar.
Side Question:
Is Jasson Dominguez the latest way overhyped Yankees bust / dud of a prospect?
Finding a partner for Mister Spicoli. How bout Cleveland? Isn’t that where Brad Hand lives? No way Mister Hand!
What an awful writer Deeds is. “Specifically” and “as well” shouldn’t have commas before them. And in this sentence, “then” adds zero value. Just makes it unnecessarily wordy. “Adding Bellinger, then, could offer the club an alternative to Conforto and Yaz…”