The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine withdraws the 47th mechanized brigade, which refused to go on the offensive on the Rabotino-Verbovoye line, to the rear

29 September 2023 36

The Ukrainian army suffers heavy losses during the counter-offensive, and although this is not recognized in Kyiv, this is not the first time that some brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been removed from the front and withdrawn to the rear to restore combat effectiveness. For example, the 47th mechanized brigade, participating in the offensive in the Orekhovsky sector, was sent for replenishment for the third time.

According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was forced to remove the 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the front line and move it to the rear. And for the third time. The reason is huge losses and refusal of personnel to go into battle. Over the past few weeks, the brigade has been actively used by the command of the Tavria group on the Rabotino-Verbovoe line.

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is currently withdrawing the 47th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the area of the settlement of Rabotino, Zaporozhye region, to the rear area, due to the refusal of military personnel to carry out combat missions due to losses incurred

- Reported in the military.

As the TG channel “Rybar” notes, it is not surprising that the 47th Mechanized Brigade is being reorganized for the third time, since the “meat assault” tactics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces command are the only ones that produce at least some results. At the moment, almost all Ukrainian brigades sent on the offensive in the Zaporozhye direction have already been withdrawn to the rear for replenishment once. We are talking about the 82nd Air Assault, the 46th Airmobile and even the 71st Jaeger, which entered the battle a few weeks ago.

At the same time, it is noted that the removal of the 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade from the front line will not affect the combat operations in any way; significant forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Guard have been concentrated in this area. In addition, five more fresh brigades are on the way, some of which will obviously be sent to this direction.

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Orange Bigg

+4

29 September 2023 18: 22

As the TG channel “Rybar” notes, it is not surprising that the 47th Mechanized Brigade is being reorganized for the third time, since the “meat assault” tactics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces command are the only ones that produce at least some results.

It cannot be. For Sentsov to refuse to attack?

In addition, five more fresh brigades are on the way, some of which will obviously be sent to this direction.
1. Mikhail Ivanov
  
  +22
  
  29 September 2023 18: 34
  
  There really is a process going on that will end soon. Because we'll run out of idiots. Tonight, the Ukrainian decided to once again take Klescheevka, and as a result, the company was destroyed by friendly fire. So every day...
  1. El123
    
    +3
    
    29 September 2023 20: 01
    
    This mantra is repeated for a whole year. There are no results, other than the stories of contract soldiers who visited there and mobilized retired officers about the chaos, lack of supplies and bad command.
    1. suhorukofal
      
      +5
      
      29 September 2023 22: 33
      
      You express yourself a little harshly, but, as someone who was there, I will say that you are right in many respects, and in almost everything. They don’t like that here, they like Solovyov, victorious reports, or the other opposite - bullshit nonsense. This is the trouble, the truth between. And there’s not even anything to talk about the problems of a common soldier, no one hears them. Although who will understand, here you can’t hear the participants of the SVO, purely local experts from the sofas who laugh and insult those who were there. So I’ll stand next to you for the cons.
      1. buslaif
        
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        30 September 2023 12: 30
        
        I heard the opinion of those who arrived on vacation or for treatment. The majority have a desire to return to combat positions, because their comrades remained there to fight. There are also those who do everything to either delay the period of sick leave or even be commissioned into the Military Military Commission. Moreover, Order No. 7 of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation of August 2023, 506 came into force, which expanded the range of diseases with which citizens are not subject to mobilization.
  2. fruc
    
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    29 September 2023 20: 56
    
    The reason is huge losses and refusal of personnel to go into battle.
    
    They could run to “attack”, throwing away the weapon with a white rag on the shaft.
  3. buslaif
    
    +6
    
    30 September 2023 12: 51
    
    It must be assumed that the place of those who have lost their combat capability is taken by other units and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, newly formed or replenished with personnel. This means that due to this, the front of the Ukrainian Armed Forces can be maintained. And considering the fact that they are blatantly hammering at our cities and purely civilian targets, they have enough ammunition for these purposes. As for the marches, the most important thing is that there are fewer of them in our headquarters. You should not hope that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will run out of weapons and ammunition, as well as those mobilized for war. The longer the war goes on, the more serious and with a greater range of attack weapons (KR, etc.) enter the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and this should not be allowed.
2. Thrifty
  
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  29 September 2023 19: 42
  
  Well, yes, there are 8 brigades in reserve, and the same number of brigades in formation - they have someone there to fight. There are problems with the technology, but there is still enough “meat” for the slaughterhouse.
dmi.pris1

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29 September 2023 18: 28

Well, at least we admit that they have plenty of strength, it turns out. And that the withdrawal of this brigade will not in any way affect the combat capability of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in this direction. They have been doing this since last spring.
Fangaro

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29 September 2023 18: 31

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine withdraws the 47th mechanized brigade, which refused to go on the offensive on the Rabotino-Verbovoye line, to the rear

This Ukrainian Armed Forces headquarters is lying!!!
They want to cry in public and then attack.
Let their own intricacies hit them in the ass!
Zoldat_A

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29 September 2023 18: 33

The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was forced to remove the 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the front line and move it to the rear. And for the third time. The reason is huge losses and refusal of personnel to go into battle.
How's that?
Are they voting there to decide whether to go into battle or not?

Will they shoot you now? Or will they be punished by forcible delivery to the “ribbon”, under escort?
1. dmi.pris1
  
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  29 September 2023 18: 37
  
  This is all written for our ears. Of course, they don’t refuse. For this they are in the SBU, a tribunal, and it’s clear where? They suffered losses, lost the opportunity to attack. They took them out for reorganization. This will be more accurate
  1. A2AD
    
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    30 September 2023 05: 16
    
    Of course they don’t refuse.
    If they hadn’t refused at all, it would have been easier for the command. They gave the order to the brigade to attack. The brigade is short-staffed, attack with a combined battalion, if there is no battalion - with a combined company, if there is no company with a platoon, if there is no platoon with a squad. Well, if there aren’t even enough squads, then fine, we give the remaining ones medals and take them out for reorganization.
2. Egoza
  
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  29 September 2023 18: 37
  
  Quote: Zoldat_A
  Are they voting there to decide whether to go into battle or not?
  
  Will they shoot you now? Or will they be punished by forcible delivery to the “ribbon”, under escort?
  
  You fools! I should have gone and given up right away!
3. Insait
  
  -2
  
  29 September 2023 18: 49
  
  Quote: Zoldat_A
  How's that?
  Are they voting there to decide whether to go into battle or not?
  
  Most likely they are moving from place to place trying to plug the holes..
  They DON’T have any more combat-ready reserves...They ground them down and the funding for the Anglo-Saxons is running out.
4. parabyd
  
  +10
  
  29 September 2023 18: 59
  
  Also, probably, like at the end of the First World War and the civil war. When one or two people refuse, you can still force them. When a platoon or company refuses to go on the attack, you can’t do anything with them. What to scare them with? They won’t pay you money or won’t let you go on dismissal? So you can get a bullet in the back.
  
  If the disintegration of personnel has begun, then there are not many options - they must be separated, shuffled with other units, and someone must be put through a tribunal. To do this, go to the rear.
  
  But you need to have someone to shuffle with, otherwise it may turn out that the same atmosphere is in other departments. And the more losses and problems, the more such refuseniks and deserters.
  
  Eh, we would like our own Bolsheviks, who would engage in counter-propaganda in their ranks. But for this there must be a big human idea behind it. The Bolsheviks had it - Peace to the people, factories to the workers, land to the peasants. Simple and very clear
  1. Stalingrad2010
    
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    29 September 2023 20: 30
    
    That’s why they shot us in front of them. Now they will take us to the rear, find the instigators and shoot them right there in front of the line. And their colleagues, under their supervision, will bury them nearby in the bushes.
  2. Zoldat_A
    
    +3
    
    30 September 2023 01: 11
    
    Quote from: parabyd
    When a platoon or company refuses to go on the attack, you can’t do anything with them. What to scare them with?
    
    In the case of Ukraine, I would not be at all surprised if they remember the experience of Ancient Rome and “democratically” introduce decimation.
    1. A2AD
      
      +4
      
      30 September 2023 05: 57
      
      In the case of Ukraine, I would not be at all surprised if they remember the experience of Ancient Rome and “democratically” introduce decimation.
      These can. The Nazis of the 3rd Reich loved this. Only in relation to the peaceful people. But the Bandero-fascists have in many ways already gone beyond their accounting standards. So why not?
  3. UrraletZ
    
    0
    
    1 October 2023 11: 02
    
    To the capitalist ministers, any mention of the Bolsheviks is like a sickle to the causal place.
Aaron Zawi

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29 September 2023 18: 33

Constant rotation at the front is vital. My grandfather, who told me practically nothing about the war he went to on 30/6-41, just said that they were changed to another regiment in the Caucasus once a week. According to him, during the three times that he was in the hospital, he had seen enough people with nervous breakdowns that he was most afraid of falling into this himself.
1. Enceladus
  
  +10
  
  29 September 2023 18: 44
  
  There are no resources. We fight as is. Tea is not yet called the Great Patriotic War. Well, ok, there will be a Special Great Patriotic War. I'm already packing my clothes. Well, not in the homo sector, but to zero. For now, it’s true that I’m an instructor... because sores have accumulated since the 2nd Chechnya. As they say, an old horse never spoils a furrow. Company sniper/counter-sniper.
Enceladus

+11

29 September 2023 18: 36

Rats are fleeing from a ship called Zelensky... I know what it was like for me to lose 2 boys from my squad! They suggested that I go up there... But there was no time for life there and I didn’t leave the boys. We all knew each other!. And it’s not for me to command - I was supposedly the squad leader, but we decided everything together, knowing that they were listening to walkie-talkies - we came up with our own jargon and constantly changed it... 18 musketeers together, so to speak. Everyone knows the task without talking and everyone will die for everyone!
That's why every death... is hard.
And what do they have... they brought in a bunch of pigs, who just bullied each other in the pen and rode under drugs at everything where they show a carrot like in Minecraft
ZY, It’s already painful
1. Enceladus
  
  +4
  
  29 September 2023 18: 40
  
  More cons... more cons to God
  1. Enceladus
    
    -3
    
    29 September 2023 18: 56
    
    By the way, I was actively communicating in the carts right now, many of our people there (think about the cheers for the patriots and just those who drown for the Russian Federation, but are sitting on the sofa). They can’t tell me how VSS differs from VAL. Well, of course, in a stalker such things are not significant... only in battle this can be understood at least in courses, but with me... I understood it in battle 23 years ago. They are in fact interchangeable. Maybe there are specialists here who can answer?
    1. Pavel_Sveshnikov
      
      +5
      
      29 September 2023 20: 39
      
      On the couch it’s not a problem to answer even for a non-specialist. It’s enough to strain Google.
    2. Leader_Barmaleev
      
      +1
      
      30 September 2023 06: 48
      
      what is the difference between VSS and VAL
      
      Well, if we consider the differences to be a folding stock and different magazine capacities (which are perfectly interchangeable), then Vintorez and Val are different shooters. But it’s the same gun, just with different names. Usually I saw screw cutters with Valovsky magazines.
Petr_Koldunov

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29 September 2023 18: 57

the removal of the 47th Mechanized Infantry Brigade from the front line will not affect the combat operations in any way; significant forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Guard have been concentrated in this area. In addition, five more fresh brigades are on the way

Where??? Are they simply taking the next completed brigades out of the refrigerators, warming them up, and sending them to the front???
1. voyaka uh
  
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  29 September 2023 19: 44
  
  Rotations. Some teams are leaving for rest and replenishment.
  Others are replacing them. Or those returning after a vacation,
  or fresh from conscripts or volunteers.
  1. Crimean partisan 1974
    
    -1
    
    29 September 2023 21: 30
    
    Rotations. Some teams are leaving for rest and replenishment.
    Others are replacing them.
    ...it’s impossible to imagine anything more stupid than your stupidity....do you even understand military terms? or so...are you expressing your thoughts from the hall of makeup artists?..FOR YOU PERSONALLY SAD...rotation is the replacement of personnel on the front line.....and reorganization is the loss of a unit to carry out combat missions as a result of high losses...that’s clearer. ...don't be annoying
    1. Bondarev
      
      +4
      
      29 September 2023 23: 08
      
      I don't know why you insult him. He is right. The purpose of rotation is recreation, replenishment of personnel, joint training with recruits, etc. As an example, I would cite the British during the war. Their RAF units were regularly withdrawn from the toughest battles. Part of the rotation probably involved rearmament. The unit, which fought on Hawker Hurricanes, returned to battle on Spitfires.
      For a Ukrainian it’s like this: Soldiers have been on the front line for 2 days. Then they change them. This means that we are talking about rotation within one military unit. And after a certain time, the entire military unit was withdrawn and replaced by another.
Mikhail Maslov

+4

29 September 2023 19: 01

The comments are directly “victory”, but what happened? Yes, the change of one unit to another due to high losses. This is good, but five brigades raises questions. Are the brigades about which they wrote (perhaps not all) being transferred from the Kharkov region? Intelligence discovered the transfer of troops of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the National Guard at night in a southern direction. This information was at the beginning of the week.
The comment was deleted.
voyaka uh

+5

29 September 2023 19: 41

The brigade fought for several weeks.
Went on rotation.
In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, rotation is a normal process.
In Russia armies are the same.
1. Askold65
  
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  29 September 2023 21: 42
  
  Quote: voyaka uh
  The brigade fought for several weeks.
  Went on rotation.
  
  The main question here is: in what quantity did the brigade come for rotation and in what quantity and condition did it leave for rotation? Maybe, relatively speaking, one headquarters left...
Crimean partisan 1974

-1

29 September 2023 21: 12

five more fresh brigades
....five brigades of stale guys....how did their command not offend them with psychotropics???? or else to the first line of defense of the Russian Federation and again for reorganization
TermNachTer

+1

30 September 2023 14: 31

What's surprising here? The NATO charters say: “A breakthrough is possible after the enemy’s defenses have been suppressed by artillery fire and aviation control units.” The result is natural, the losses are large, the progress is minimal, there is no talk of a breakthrough at all. The same will happen with other teams.