If I understand it properly, the ‘terrain argument’ is that these violations of our civil liberties are being permitted due to the contagion concept, but if we eliminate contagion, we eliminate that permission. I would instead say, TPTB will always find a reason to violate historical civil liberties in favour of ‘collectivism’, contagion or no contagion, and our resistance to this must rely on bedrock principles deeper than that. Our freedoms can only be constrained when our actions directly and demonstratively place others in danger, a traditional understanding of western Christian societies, which grew out of common law, and the reformed faith...one reason ‘asymptomatic spread’ and ‘healthy quarantine’ are EVIL, as they provide an excuse for these ongoing State violations of liberty. (Hello Trudeau et al) Meanwhile the vast majority of churches go along with this still...and call it ‘love for neighbour’. I can’t even....Rant over. Goodnight.