"sane people in the middle" I like to think I'm sane but I don't have any attraction to the middle, that's for roadkill. Call it a copout but as you're read before, I don't think the "trans" shit has anything to do with the actual political left. And to be fair I could say the same for MAGA and the right. Both are founded on lies, though I think that a lot of people who call themselves Republicans are on board with MAGA; I see some, but not much, repudiation of the swastika-flag right. OTOH I read a lot of opposition to surgery on kids. But. I also see one hell of a lot of denial among what I will provisionally call Democrats, people who think that nobody under 18 has had surgery, that the barriers to transitioning from 30 years ago are still in place, angry denial that parents' rights are being overruled if their kid gets on TikTok and decides she's "trans." I've even forwarded some of the links from your backlash article and I get responses that they are printed in biased sources. Anyway. What you're saying up there is exactly what I've been saying: MAGA and "woke" are mirror images. I was talking about the "contempt for conservatives" thing. I think they get as least as much contempt from the scoundrels they vote for as from (probably largely fictitious) "leftist elites." I admit I've used phrases like "trailer trash" though not lately but I've used "SJW lunatic" a lot more lately. Edit: I actually doubt that as many believe the election was stolen as say it; I think it's a qualification for membership and they just say it to belong. Since honesty isn't even a tertiary priority among conservatives now they don't mind knowingly speaking a lie if it makes them feel like they have a group. The corresponding utterance on the other side is the "trans woman" shit. I don't know how many actually believe that but don't forget how few people know anything about science, any more than those who do know some and insist that biological sex is a continuum. It's like global ergotism.