Why has the right suddenly become obsessed with birth rates, and what policies will they push to achieve their fertility goals? Why are these so-called pro-family advocates utterly uninterested in policies that would both improve the lives of parents and children and potentially raise birth rates, like universal free childcare? And how has the left responded to this renewed breeding obsession? After months of reading and raging about these questions, we decided we needed to talk it out. In this podcast, we try to follow all of these threads — and, to be transparent, we also vented a lot of sputtering fury.