I had the most wonderful Substack Live conversation with Nell Derick Debevoise Dewey, about inclusion, ethics, belonging and betrayal. And, she wrote about it so eloquently for Forbes!❣️

"Taylor’s prescription is not a new framework so much as a return to something more fundamental. "We need to get back to questions of basic morality and values and not be afraid to make those arguments." The ROI case for doing the right thing has its place. But when leaders cannot make a values-based argument without immediately translating it into shareholder return, it hollows out the message and eventually the messenger.

The leaders she sees as most credible right now are not the ones claiming to have the answers. They are the ones willing to say, in Taylor’s framing, that they do not know, and maybe even to ask what their people think. "When was the last time you heard a CEO say 'I don't know'? When was the last time you heard a CEO say 'What do you think?'"

In a moment defined by leaders keeping their heads down, that kind of honesty and collective innovation may be the most strategically sound move available.The business case for ethics may be under pressure. The case for ethical leadership, grounded in values, honest about complexity, and willing to sit with uncertainty, is stronger than ever."