From a conversation with Ezra Klein on Friday, before the killing of Alex Pretti and all that has happened since.
“I do think that a lot of the power of the powerless comes from the creation of a consensus — and, bluntly speaking, a moral consensus. A moral consensus that what is happening is wicked, what is happening is wrong, what is happening is, in a fundamental sense, evil.
To the extent that what the Trump administration is doing gets on the wrong side of that, either internationally or domestically, it does create a way for people to start pushing back.”