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Charlie's podcast with Will Saletan yesterday (02-07-22) raised the topic of people who lied (enabling Trump) but might later be considered redeemed if / when they speak out in support of truth and democracy. Charlie and Will also discussed forever irredeemables such Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon. I'd like to nominate Ronna McDaniel to the forever irredeemable candidate list. While less significant than Tucker and Steve, Ronna deserves equal irredeemable hall of fame recognition.
I was very interested in that conversation. Surely there are different degrees of "redeemed?" Maybe there's some level of admissible into polite company but never ever to be trusted with political office or even any kind of important administrative role, vs the "we all know that person should be shunned and ideally jailed" types of Bannon, Stone and Giuliani.
I appreciate different criteria / standards for 'admissible into polite company' vs 'ideally jailed'. With respect to Ronna McDaniel, she can never earn readmission to polite company. Yet she (to the best of my knowledge) has not yet earned admission to a jail cell.
Agreed. Maybe my distinctions aren't the best. I just mean, maybe it's not "Irredeemable, Yes or No?" There is probably a spectrum of some kind. Another person who I think is in Ronna's camp is Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and it looks like she is going to be elected to office. That's the kind of thing I just don't think should happen with these people.
Agreed. And your distinctions are good. But I suggest that a definitive Yes or No standard apply to Irredeemable status, while, for a community forum discussion standpoint, a broader spectrum apply to Beyond-Irredeemable status. I second your recommendation of Sarah-HS for Irredeemable status, and raise that recommendation with Kayleigh Mc.