rd3's avatar

The most recent phase of the US war against Germany began with Obama's "cash for clunkers" and the bullshit attack on German turbo diesels. With turbo diesels getting 50+ miles per gallon, there was no reason to ever make an electric car. So, Obama's cronies took most used cars off the market and ginned up some bullshit lawsuit about turbo diesel emissions thereby shutting the whole turbo diesel project down. This created a fake market for electric cars that nobody really wanted anyway.

tom clark's avatar

Almost time to resurrect the horse and buggy. EROEI will rule in the end.

John Schrauth's avatar

Sorry, but no. If you want streets that are nothing but rivers of horse poop and urine, OK. Otherwise give me a good old internal combustion vehicle, although I am fascinated by fuel cells.

tom clark's avatar

I dunno if fuel cells will save humankind, John. In the meantime, drill baby, drill!

John Schrauth's avatar

I am enthusiastic about "drill baby drill." It's hard to imagine fuel cells becoming the thing any time soon. I recall Toyota saying in the mid 90's there would be a fuel cell RAV 4 in 2000. 25 years on they have a car finally but hydrogen is harder to find than a working Tesla charger in a Blue shithole. Also Trump's admonition that they're great but might explode. LOL!

JohnAZ's avatar

John, I am a Toyota fan and I talked to my salesman about progress on the hydrogen car. Not much, and aside from a few zealots, not much interest. IMHO, plug in hybrids is where things are going to go. Biased, because I own a RAV4 Prime and spend an average of $20 per month on gas and about $30 on electricity to run it. The biggest problem is in availability.

Yes, why not have a nuclear engine in every car? With a special code to turn it into a bomb. The code is only given to consumers of high moral quality.

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