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If moral relativism were true, we couldn't say that the abolition of slavery or the advancement of women's rights was "progress"we could only say it was "change." We can measure the reduction of suffering, we can prove that some moral systems are objectively better than others.
Ahh yes, you can only make progress if it’s progress according to a stance-independent standard. Nobody has ever set a goal for themselves and made progress on it. No artist has ever gotten better at art. No culinary student has ever gotten better at cooking.
This is nonsense. You can make progress on self-chosen goals or with respect to completely relative goals. You always could. Absolutely nothing about the notion of “progress” is conceptually restricted to normative realism.
I don’t know how or why these bad objections started but my god are they persistent.
