NEW PODCAST EPISODE: "History doesn't change. Our interpretations do." The Civil Rights Movement, Southern identity, and finding courage in the truth.

Ahmad Ward and I have been rolling strong since the early days of the pandemic, when a small cohort of museum leaders got together just trying to make sense of things. He is a historian, a museum leader, a Southerner, a father, and one of the most honest people I know.

We met in the history museum field and stayed close because of what the work demands—honesty, courage, and a willingness to sit with the uncomfortable stuff. We navigate Southern identity differently, and we’ve always been frank with each other about it.

History is our common language. Liberation is always the goal.