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It is time, it is time that the United States military show Iran and Houthis the inside of the B1-B bomber with its payload, it is time yes that America send a potent devastating message to Iran for
DUANE HAYES's avatar

We should bomb the hell out of the Houthis. The aid would only go to Hamas and none of the Palestinians citizens.

Michael G. Fons's avatar

Saudi Arabia,, with US help, bombed the Houthis for years and the Houthis still kicked their a$$ out of Yemen. The Saudi's learned their lesson and don't want to have anything to do with anymore bombing of the Houthis, becuase the Saudi's know that the Houthis will blow up their oil refineries if they even think about doing that. Bombing the Houthis won't accomplish anything except for make them block even more ships and blow up oil refineries in retaliation. The only way to defeat the Houthis …

DUANE HAYES's avatar

Like making a deal with Hamas? Like the cease fire Israel had with Hamas before Oct 7? Reagan destroyed the Iranian navy and they didn't give any more trouble after that. We should at least escort ships through the red sea, and any Houthis attacks repealed with full force, obliterated. Qur'an, "War is deceit" No way to make a deal with the devil Islamists.

Michael G. Fons's avatar

I'm curious what your thoughts are regarding Israel's involvement in 9/11? Do you think that it was a false flag attack orchestrated by Israel as Chris Bollyn details in the video linked below, or do you believe the official story that it was Islamic terrorist? rumble.com/v3kehtc-tric…

DUANE HAYES's avatar

Any source that you look at, Bollyn hates Jews, period. He sure works hard to paint Jews as evil villains.

Michael G. Fons's avatar

Bollyn lived in Israel for several years and had a Jewish girlfriend and does not hate Jews at all and is NOT a holocaust denier. The same Wikipedia and mainstream sources that you read that on also will tell you that COVID shots are super duper safe and effective. Why don't you watch the video and give me your opinion on it rather than parroting hit pieces you read about him from not-so-trusted sources?

DUANE HAYES's avatar

I've actually watched entire videos suggested by my fellow debaters on these sites, and found some good and bad. So I'm open minded up to a point. When some nut job says that Israel did 9/11, that's the equivalent of saying the earth is flat, the moon landing was done in a hollywood studio, and I won't waste my time on such an outrageous lie. I don't know what Bollyn's problem is, but he should be locked up in a mental ward.

DUANE HAYES's avatar

PS, what's even more outrageous is that anyone would take his nonsense as legitimate, you should know better.

Michael G. Fons's avatar

Israel has a long history of doing false flag attacks in order to get the US into war. Look into the USS Liberty, and the Lavone Affair. Even Wikipedia says they are false flag attacks. Bollyn sites news articles and other sources for every claim he makes in his book. amazon.com/Solving-9-11…

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DUANE HAYES's avatar

Consider that if there were positive proof of Israel doing such a thing, then the United States wouldn't give them any support, ever again, and that would be their complete demise. Do you think they would risk this? Would they gamble like this knowing if they lost the bet, they'd all die? The radical Islamists would sweep into Israel, kill every person, if the United States dropped the support. No, this Bollyn is a complete fraud, every word he says.

Michael G. Fons's avatar

Um, you do realize that there are staunch Zionist at the highest levels in US goverment right? . For instance, Judge Hellerstin nytimes.com/2016/09/10/…

Why don't you watch 5 min of his video and let me know if he says one thing that is factually incorrect?

DUANE HAYES's avatar

NY Slimes wants me to subscribe to see the article. But I know that sure there are Jews in the United States and at all levels of our government. I don't know if they're "Zionists", but Zionism is not a bad thing, it's only the desire for a Jewish homeland. If you look at the middle east, Israel is only like 1.5 % of that land mass of Islamic-Arab lands, but many of the Muslims can't even stand Israel to use that microscopic piece of land. And the Jews were there centuries before Muhammad even …

Michael G. Fons's avatar

Ok, so how about you watch 5 min of one of Christopher Bollyn's videos and let me know if you can point out any falsehoods. You've wasted more time arguing with me than it would take to simply watch a few mins of his video. You find one false statement he makes then you can stop watching it and let me know what it is.

DUANE HAYES's avatar

I know the guys a liar, period. He's literally a stark raving lunatic.

Michael G. Fons's avatar

Then point out one of his lies. Surely it wont take that long if everything he says is a lie. Should take like 20 seconds.

DUANE HAYES's avatar

I found a video on youtube, he says nonsense, like Israel's plan to dominate the entire middle east region. And a plan to break up all the Islamic countries into small ethnic groups. He says the United States waging war in Syria and devastating that country. None of that is true. I've had enough of this guy. And he was on BBC network one of the most anti Israel media there is. Another 9/11 story was promoted by a Turkish media group. A Islamic country that hates Israel and probably all Christia…

Michael G. Fons's avatar

You do know about the Zionists "Greater Israel" concept don't you?

DUANE HAYES's avatar

I should add that in every "peace" deal, it's been Israel giving up more land, to get nothing in return.

Michael G. Fons's avatar

LOL, how do the Israeli settlements in the West Bank factor into your delusional perception of reality?

DUANE HAYES's avatar

All of the West Bank belongs to Israel. But Israel allows most of it to be home to Arabs. Also Israel allows a portion to be governed by the Palestinian authority.

The Israeli settlements in the West Bank are violations of international law. Pretending that "all of the West Bank belongs to Israel" is delusional. You've gone full blown retard man. google.com/search?rlz=1…

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