Some of you know that I used to co-host a podcast, Two Psychologists Four Beers, and still make the ocassional visit. Check out the latest episode, where we host Molly Crocket for a fun discussion that got spicy in some unexpected spots. Here is a description of the episode for the curious:

"Cognitive scientist Molly Crockett joins the show to talk about what it's like to be known in the field as an "AI skeptic." We talk about where Molly is actually skeptical, but also what she thinks that label gets wrong. Along the way, we cover a bunch of other things too: Molly's research in social neuroscience, computational modeling, and moral psychology; Molly and Mickey's disagreements about empathic AI; and Molly's case for what she's calling "thick empathy." Finally, Molly makes a pitch for non-alcoholic beer, which sadly falls on deaf ears."