I only just found this today and listened right away as Dougald and Isabelle are two of my favourite thinkers/writers. I liked Isabelle’s acknowledgement of dependency with her ‘please help’ to older generations. I was just reading ‘The Corrosion of Character’ by Richard Sennett. He breaks down the modern (albeit published 1999) world of work where people are expected to forge their own career and work in short-term project teams. He believes that rejection of the idea of dependency means there is no space for trust to be built. This leaves a longing for community. This then sometimes finds a toxic outlet in far right nationalism etc (my interpretation more than what he directly says).