"Starmer governs to a certain extent as Blair did, but without the optimism. What they have in common is this type of pragmatism, this idea that ideologies are a thing of the past.

My former prime minister, Mark Rutte, famously said: ‘If you want vision, go to the eye doctor. I'm solving problems’.

But politics is largely about defining problems, not just solving them.”

Anya Pearson interviews Cas Mudde, one of the world's leading experts on the far right, on political extremism and populism in Europe and the United States.