I also had some problems with Desmet's book, not least that it was a rushed work, but that does not mean there was not also a lot of value to be found in it. Furthermore, and I will say it again, Desmet was not the first to write about the Mass Formation, and it would be a mistake to let issues related his personal credibility cloud all else on this issue. Desmet may have given it a new name, but the concept of the Mass Formation has been well explored by giants far greater than him in decades past. You can even see it in the work of Étienne de La Boétie nearly 475 years ago. I believe the dishonesty Phillip above is referring to relates to conflating all lines of inquiry relating to Mass Formation with some kind of ploy aimed at letting our globalist totalitarians off the hook. That would certainly be dishonest, but that is how this is starting to come across. The Hegelian Dialectic strikes again. It is almost as if there is a sudden push to suppress debate and discussion. (I thought that was what the other side does?) Again, I concur with Philip. It seems artificially aggressive. Why all the infighting, when it's pretty clear to most of us on this page who the real enemies are and where the threats to We the People are coming from - Mass Formation or not? I think JohnSmith above has it right where he says, "The "mass formation" behavior pattern is prepared by decades of psychological manipulation and propaganda, and triggered by engineered "crises" which create stress and fear. The herd then stampedes in the desired direction."

If our globalist totalitarians are the ones who have set a Mass Formation in motion, as many of us who are probably with you and 2nd Smartest in most other respects believe, why would we not want to try to understand and undo it, which is something I believe Desmet advocated and provided practical advice for in his book?

Perhaps we're all having a misunderstanding here, but something doesn't seem right. It also seems as though 2nd Smartest has moderated his position somewhat in his comments. It just seems a bit odd, that's all.