When I was growing up, I was taught that I should always open the door for a lady, pull out her chair for her, walk on the curb side while strolling, and many other chivalrous things that men were supposed to do for the "fairer sex". In around the 1980s I held the door open for a lady and she went in the other door (after looking at me with a face that said something like, "what's wrong with you? Do you think I can't open the door for myself?), then when in a group of lovely women one time I said something to the effect of, "I'm so happy to be surrounded by all of you lovely ladies". One of these women scowled while asking, "who are you calling a lady?" Needless to say, I don't go out of my way anymore. Nah. If women don't want to be worshiped by men than so-be-it. The only women I treat the way I was taught are the ones in my family, and the elderly women (who still remember when men were allowed to treat them with a bit of extra care). Ladies, if you want men... let us be men. Let us do what we were naturally created to do... to take care of you. If you constantly give of an air of "I don't need you" well, guess what? We will gladly comply and you can fend for yourselves. Sorry, it's just a fact.