"Since the Patriot Act, they've been trying to get...the Real ID adopted, and their latest push is to...insist that you need it to travel."

"I've been trying to work with people...to stop the real ID...this technology is [about] control. It's not really to help us."

This is a clip of former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, investment banker, and founder of the Solari Report Catherine Austin Fitts in an interview with UKColumn.

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"So, since the Patriot Act, they've been trying to get something called the Real ID adopted, and their latest push is to do it through the states and insist that you needed to travel. And they're getting very bad uptake. So they keep warning people they can't travel after a certain point this year. I think it's May. And yet they're getting very poor uptake, but they're pushing hard. And, of course, Trump is making all sorts of noises with election fraud and immigration on biometrics, and there's push for that. And I'm not current on the latest details on that. I've been trying to work with people at the state level to stop the real ID.

"I think, you know, I'm hopeful that more and more people are beginning to understand the risk of this stuff. We've seen a real appreciation now for why it's so important to use cash and checks and to keep the financial system analog. And I don't know how you're doing on that in Britain, but people are starting to realize, oh, this technology is more to control. It's not really to help us."