I watched the entire Rogan interview with the Means. Not overly impressed, but a lot to like about Casey. I DO think they're doing a lot of good because so much of the public has so much waking up to do, that if they move in the Means' direction that would be great. Calley said he didn't speak to Casey for a year when she quit her surgeon job. Huh? That was a heroic thing do to, if only more had such principles. Calley is hopelessly naive. He thinks the politicians have no idea about how they are screwing us - it's all just ignorance. Just because they SEEM to be listening to him, and considering what he says, and then SAY "I didn't know that". Jeez, these are politicians, they're expert at placating when it's expedient. Casey is much better IMO.