“Before the early 1700s, if you came to America, the odds you came in chains were about 75% Of ANY class or color.”

This is not a claim about "PROPERTY availability" or suffrage. It's a totally made up claim about slavery.

"Universal suffrage for ANYONE was unthinkable in 1787."

This is where you invoked suffrage. The United States was already independent of the King at this point. And yes, white, landowning men had suffrage. As I've provided ample evidence of.

"There were several black legislators in the US before the Civil War. The first was in 1836"

This is not proof of universal suffrage, and it's 49 years after 1787. Though yes, even in the 1780s there were limited examples of women and people of colour being able to vote in certain states, Universal suffrage didn't come for African Americans until the Fifteenth Amendment in 1870.

Okay, I'm done here. I like engaging with people with strong opinions David, I consider it an opportunity to learn. But it's such a waste of time when the other person is only interested in winning and not in thinking.

I'm actually perfectly happy to admit when I don't know something. There are lots of things I don't know. That's one reason why I spend so much time talking to people; to learn.

But as I've proven many times, I actually have a pretty good knowledge of American history. At least the areas that I write about. And when I *don't* know something, I don't make blanket statements, or pull statistics out of my ass, or try to DARVO my way out of situations where I'm wrong, which means I don't have to get all defensive when I learn something new.

Anyway, as I said, I'm done here. Enjoy the last word. I won't read it,