"1) You mentioned race first (and I'll bet you shot Greedo first, too!)

2) That's where I felt you kind of blew it not understanding Eve's point - she wasn't being super-rude or blindingly clueless - and she did make an argument I 'get', even if I'm not sure how I think about it."

1) Again, I didn't mention race, I mentioned the colour of my skin because it's an objective fact. I wasn't making a racial argument at all. I could have mentioned the colour of oranges instead, but I wouldn't have been "dragging" agriculture into it. I *did* mention coin flips, but I wasn't "dragging" economics into it.

2) Caster Semenya can't be "stripped of her femaleness." She either is female or she isn't. The issue is that Caster Semenya may well not be female. But regardless, that's not the argument that Eve was making. Eve was claiming Caster had been stripped of her *womanhood*. Something which I have absolutely never done and was crystal clear during the conversation that I would never do.

But again, it's something that could only possibly happen to the roughly 0.1% of people who are intersex males who grew up believing they were females and were tested in such a way where they discovered they weren't. This isn't a threat to "every single woman on Earth." It's absolutely ridiculous to claim that it is.

So yes, her argument *was* blindingly clueless, and also blindingly racist. Because she compared trans women, who are not female, to black people, as if to suggest that we're not people. While I'm a little disturbed that you "get" that argument, I realise that you do so in good-faith. Which is why I'm trying to get you to think about it a little more.

Anyway here's the article. In which, it's worth noting, I don't even mention Caster Semenya😅

https://steveqj.medium.com/the-endangered-art-of-running-like-a-girl-83c636cffdda?sk=a16709b88a787c9757d0b12eb1cc04c7

p.s. Greedo had it coming.