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Yep, it's also true for men. But it's hard to argue that the expectations and pressures placed on women aren't more restrictive in general. That's not to say that women can't still choose to ignore them, just that they have more to ignore. And yes, there are definitely pressures and expectations on men too. They just aren't as limiting in most cases.

"I believe this contradicts the previous two sentences about it not being possible for You to control Your views about this"

Yeah, that should have been: "I try my best to *treat* everybody as an individual." Not *see* everybody as an individual. I see how that was confusing.πŸ˜…

I just meant that if I look at a woman, it's impossible for me not to see a woman. I can't make myself see a man or a "them" just because they tell me what their pronouns are. But as much as possible, I try not to let that influence how I think of or treat that person. I certainly can't do this perfectly, there are a thousand little bits of unconscious bias and social programming that affect my behaviour. But I do what I can as far as conscious behaviour goes.

The key flaw with the concept of "non-binary" is the idea that biases are based on how you "identify" instead of how you're perceived. It's the same mistake people make when they say they're "assigned" a sex at birth, rather than having their sex observed. You are what you are. You can't "identify" your way out of that. But you can choose your behaviour.

I think Laurel and I would agree that there should be as little pressure for men and women to behave in certain ways as possible. We'd all be happier without those pressures and expectations. I just don't see how changing our pronouns gets us there.

Aug 27, 2022
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