"Seriously We’re going to argue who is worse, trump or walker?"

What do you want from me here?😅 You brought Walker into this conversation! I responded, and you ridicule me for mentioning him? And you keep mentioning personal attacks and ad hominems. Where have I done this?

Pointing out that only bad faith or ignorance would tempt somebody to deny that it was uniquely awful to be black in America during segregation is not an ad hominem. It's the truth.

Nor is a single sarcastic reference to Fox News an ad hominem. I'm happy not to mention Fox News if it offends you. But given that I force myself to watch Fox News semi-regularly, it's hard not to notice the influence. Perhaps not first hand, but yeah.

Anyway, my apologies. No more Fox News references.

And yes, you're absolutely right, there were disadvantages to being any number of ethnicities in the past. Irish and Jewish in particular. But those disadvantages smoothed out in a few generations in ways that the disadvantages of being black didn't. Do you really not see that when you look at history? Do you really not understand why that is?

You say that being black had "challenges." What time period are you talking about here? Slavery? The Jim Crow era? Your use of the past tense suggests you're not talking about today. Would you describe sundown towns and lynchings and cross burnings or the very real fear of these things, as "challenges"? What degree of misery is necessary before we can admit that it was a terrible problem? And misery relative to whom? White people?

I know that white people aren't "at the top" by many metrics. I also know that white people are wildly disproportionately at the top by some others. And I *also* know that on the metrics where white people aren't at the top, black people aren't either.

Which brings us back to what we're *actually* discussing. Namely, the notion that people pretend to be black for all the "benefits." Or the fact that you don't seem to understand why mixed race people are often referred to as black in America. Yes, some white people mimic "black culture" because they think it makes them look cool (they're wrong 100% of the time by the way). But they're still white. Wearing saggy pants isn't "identifying" as black. And hey, don't blame me that country music sucks.😉