I agree. I've found the best talking point to sell MAGA on Ukraine is "what will Xi Jinping think of his future campaigns of conquest in the Pacific if he understands that America is too afraid of war to even send weapons let alone a physical response? The quickest way to make Xi Jinping more aggressive is to have Putin's example that land conquests still work and America is too scared to even send arms to prevent them from happening." Iraq was a mistake in every form that war can be a mistake. The thing is, the only people who paid for that mistake were innocent Iraqis and US service members. Nobody at the intelligence agencies who botched the recommendations ever had to pay a price, and nobody in the Bush admin ever had to pay a price. The only people who paid any price were Iraqis and American service members. That's it. I joined to go to Afghanistan as soon as I turned 17 because I witnessed 9/11 happen with my own eyes ears and nose. The Bush administration sent me to Iraq 3x instead. Nobody else paid a price for those errors except for Iraqis and the less than 1% of the American populace who serves on active duty when admins like the Bush admin make horrid mistakes in foreign policy.