Hello classmates. A corker of an episode with Frank Furedi. Frank and I talk about the conflict of values between the EU and the Hungary and the Visegrad countries, how this has now spread to Western European countries, why culture wars are not a right-wing confection, attacks on the family, the role of democracy in challenging the status quo, and the need to continue creating spaces for honest conversation. Fans of Jonathan Haidt may also like a segment of this conversation on safetyism. Thank you for coming on the show, Frank.